Waiting for Red lights in London.

[mjr]

Red light on any crossing means STOP, not stop if you feel like doing so.

A common misconception. Read the regulations, or try complaining to the highway authority about crossing timings that don't comply with transport policies that claim walking and cycling get priority. It is not an offence to cross on red if you can see it's safe to do so - you could even argue that triggering a push button crossing unnecessarily is obstruction.

 

[classic33]

A common misconception. Read the regulations, or try complaining to the highway authority about crossing timings that don't comply with transport policies that claim walking and cycling get priority. It is not an offence to cross on red if you can see it's safe to do so - you could even argue that triggering a push button crossing unnecessarily is obstruction.

Everything read says Red means STOP. Not stop if you feel like stopping.

Added
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/23/made

 

[lazybloke]

Everything read says Red means STOP. Not stop if you feel like stopping.

Added
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/23/made

I think @mjr is talking about crossings rather than the road itself

 

[subaqua]

Why when there is no-one else around? Other than to prove a point to yourself.

Because it's the law.

I suppose if there's no other cars about and you are in your car it's OK to ignore the laws ??

 

[mjr]

He means pedestrians, which is spectacularly irrelevant.

Also cycles.

 

[mjr]

Could you quote the part which supports this?

Can I quote the bit that doesn't make it an offence? Not easily! It's not made an offence anywhere in TSRGD or any other legislation. The strongest is that people walking or cycling "should" not cross on red. Can you quote the part which makes it an offence?

 

[Milkfloat]

Can someone please just delete the last page an a half? It would really make the world a better place.

 

[Tim Hall]

Can I quote the bit that doesn't make it an offence? Not easily! It's not made an offence anywhere in TSRGD or any other legislation. The strongest is that people walking or cycling "should" not cross on red. Can you quote the part which makes it an offence?

Please post reasons instead of useless noise!

 

[mjr]

Are you talking about pavement cyclists crossing the carriageway, or cyclists travelling along the carriageway?

Neither. Cyclists crossing between cycle tracks or greenways at toucans or puffins.

 

[Dan B]

Because it's the law.

I suppose if there's no other cars about and you are in your car it's OK to ignore the laws ??

When you arrive at a badly phased light in your car do you get out and push it across the junction? If not, what makes it OK to do so when cycling?

 

[mjr]

OK, so, as stated by others, completely irrelevant to the thread. Well done.

Not completely (such red lights exist in London) but I've no idea why classic took us down this sideline yet again.

 

[subaqua]

When you arrive at a badly phased light in your car do you get out and push it across the junction? If not, what makes it OK to do so when cycling?

Exactly. I don't do it my car so I don't do it on bike.

Faulty lights however ...

 

[Lonestar]

Exactly. I don't do it my car so I don't do it on bike.

Faulty lights however ...

The CS 3 has appallingly phased lights that's if they work at all in the early mornings.Luckily for me I take car dominated routes which generally have traffic lights that work properly.

There were less RLJers in the 90's as opposed to what there are now.(IMHO)

 

[jefmcg]

When you arrive at a badly phased light in your car do you get out and push it across the junction? If not, what makes it OK to do so when cycling?

View: https://youtu.be/zHtCNhABlLw

 

[lazybloke]

The CS 3 has appallingly phased lights

The worst thing about a Fnrttc from Hype Park Corner was getting to the start. The dedicated Cs3 lights in Parliament Square seemed to ignore cyclists completely. Have they improved in the last year?