walking through red lights

[CopperBrompton]

I believe you remain a cyclist when pushing a bike on the road, and only become a pedestrian if you carry it (ie. wheels off the road).

 

[gambatte]

Seen plenty of threads on here relating to going over crossings (therefore on the road) where the, generally accepted, stated legal situation was:

‘on bike’ cyclist,
‘pushing bike’ ped,

with a bit of an undecided grey area when discussing using it like a scooter with one foot on a pedal.

I’m 95% sure there was a thread where the ‘carrying’ argument was shown to be a fallacy?

 

[Keith Oates]

I was always of the opinion that pushing the bike was the same as being a pedestrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[col]

If we had a motorbike,and got off to push through a red,would that be a ped?

 

[Keith Oates]

Don't know the answer to that one Col, probably not though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[col]

I didnt think so either,but wondered as its similar to pushing whatever vehicle we use to get through reds without waiting isnt it?Thats why even us on bikes shouldnt do it?

 

[MERV]

I was always of the opinion that pushing the bike was the same as being a pedestrian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

 

[gambatte]

Difficult to actually find something to back up either position. What I did find was the traffic management act 2004, 6,d
It mentions someone riding a cycle separately from those mechanically propelling a vehicle.

 

[CopperBrompton]

Could a car go through a red light if it was being pushed?

 

[Jaded]

Could a car go through a red light if it was being pushed?

I'm sure it could. Whether it may or not is an entirely different matter.

 

[summerdays]

I believe you remain a cyclist when pushing a bike on the road, and only become a pedestrian if you carry it (ie. wheels off the road).

There was some judgement in court that if pushing your bike across a road walking, you are a pedestrian, after all it isn't any different than pushing a buggy, but if you scoot on it then you are technically cycling. And you are allowed to push your bike the wrong way down a one-way road ... one of the advantages over cars.

 

[jonesy]

There was some judgement in court that if pushing your bike across a road walking, you are a pedestrian, after all it isn't any different than pushing a buggy, but if you scoot on it then you are technically cycling. And you are allowed to push your bike the wrong way down a one-way road ... one of the advantages over cars.

Indeed, and for the police to say otherwise would be extremely silly. One-way systems are there to control the direction of travel of vehicles, not people.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

My ex's mum once got a ticking off from the police for wheeling (not riding) her bike the wrong way down a one way street. So I'd imagine they could also do you for pushing a bike through a red light.

She must have just been spotted by a particularly stupid copper then. Which was always my opinion anyway.

 

[CopperBrompton]

There have been conflicting rulings, I believe. There was a case back in the 70s where it was ruled that traffic did not have to accord precedence to a cyclist pushing a bike across a zebra crossing because the cyclist was not a pedestrian while the wheels were in contact with the road.

Ben

 

[hackbike 6]

That's mad.Bit like the LED rule when LED's were illegal but a copper never generally stopped you for using them anyway.