Was this bus driver bad?

[col]

Surely there's something between accelerating and braking hard though?

Yes there is,passengers possibly being injured.But then your understanding of this doesnt come across .

 

[col]

You believe its okay to out-accelerate a cyclist who is half way around overtaking a bus or a car?

Sorry, but no, you're now just being ridiculous. You know it too.

Now your over assuming,and trying to validate a different argument with a common sense answer,but which isnt applicable to this incident.

 

[nethalus]

Yes there is,passengers possibly being injured.But then your understanding of this doesnt come across .

Aye the B7TLs can be sod sometimes. Even braking at low speeds some of them buck and kick. I was doing ten miles an hour once following in traffic I braked to slow down because traffic ahead was stopping and the swine started bucking. Some little toddler who'd been put on one of them swing down seats in the buggy bay fell of the seat. Of course who did everyone blame, even though the bucking was beyond my control!!

 

[col]

Aye the B7TLs can be sod sometimes. Even braking at low speeds some of them buck and kick. I was doing ten miles an hour once following in traffic I braked to slow down because traffic ahead was stopping and the swine started bucking. Some little toddler who'd been put on one of them swing down seats in the buggy bay fell of the seat. Of course who did everyone blame, even though the bucking was beyond my control!!

I know what you mean,we use darts,and some of them jump in and out of gear as you slow,so it seems your pumping the breaks,but your foot is going like the clappers,trying to cancel out the jumps,My main worry ,is that an elderly person goes down,cracks a hip,and its the beggining of the end for them.
Like brock asked ,about there must be something between accelerating,and breaking hard,normally its someone on the bus thats thrown,who wasnt expecting it.So an ignorant cyclist ,who may force a sudden breaking scenario,needs to understand the possible outcome of their pig headedness,or just pure ignorance of the subject.

 

[Brock]

'domd you need to post that in the 'is this cyclist bad' thread, we're talking about the bus driver here, remember?'

that's convenient, so it all about how bad the bus driver was and the cyclist is irrelevant?

Well done.

 

[Brock]

So you're unable to slow from or maintain a speed of ten miles an hour without significant risk of injury to passengers?
How on Earth do you manage in traffic?

 

[col]

So you're unable to slow from or maintain a speed of ten miles an hour without significant risk of injury to passengers?
How on Earth do you manage in traffic?

Changing it again eh?Ah well, its to be expected now i suppose.

 

[Brock]

Col, I'm asking a question. I'm not 'changing' anything.

 

[nethalus]

So you're unable to slow from or maintain a speed of ten miles an hour without significant risk of injury to passengers?
How on Earth do you manage in traffic?

When the B7TLs were new they had a problem with the ABS that made them occasionally, not always, buck about. They have ironed out the problem with most of them now, but they can still have a habit of doing it when it's wet.
Most of the time in traffic etc we use a technique called feathering the brake, where you gently apply the brake on and off to make the vehicle slow down smoothly. Forward planning and good anticipation also help considerably, but then no one's perfect and it's possible to miss things every so often.

 

[col]

Col, I'm asking a question. I'm not 'changing' anything.

It seems obvious the implication of what you asked.But this time omitting the hard breaking part of it.

 

[Brock]

Errr not quite sure what you mean Col.

The last bunch of posts seem to be trying to imply that the bus couldn't do anything other than accelerate because it would cause the passengers injury.

Clearly the ideal response when you notice a vehicle in an overtaking maneuver is not to brake hard, or accelerate, but simply to maintain your speed. Am I to understand (not having much experience of heavy vehicles) that this would've caused danger to the passengers?

 

[nethalus]

Errr not quite sure what you mean Col.

The last bunch of posts seem to be trying to imply that the bus couldn't do anything other than accelerate because it would cause the passengers injury.

Clearly the ideal response when you notice a vehicle in an overtaking maneuver is not to brake hard, or accelerate, but simply to maintain your speed. Am I to understand (not having much experience of heavy vehicles) that this would've caused danger to the passengers?

No it would have meant you would have a bus and a cycle going up the road at 10mph!!

 

[col]

So you're unable to slow from or maintain a speed of ten miles an hour without significant risk of injury to passengers?
How on Earth do you manage in traffic?

It came across as a sarcastic comment,and normally we manage fine in traffic.

 

[col]

Errr not quite sure what you mean Col.

The last bunch of posts seem to be trying to imply that the bus couldn't do anything other than accelerate because it would cause the passengers injury.

Clearly the ideal response when you notice a vehicle in an overtaking maneuver is not to brake hard, or accelerate, but simply to maintain your speed. Am I to understand (not having much experience of heavy vehicles) that this would've caused danger to the passengers?

Im not sure how you are asking this,?It does seem that sarcasm is how it comes across,as a repost to past posts,but if its serious,Yes breaking hard and suddenly,just after accelerating,normally catch's people off guard,and falls are possible.

 

[Brock]

Col are you on the Christmas port or something?


Think I'll join you!
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