Drago
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Top trumps cards held against the spokes with a clothes peg to make motorbike noises.
I keep going until the lever wont move anymore - and then I either swear a lot or fall off."Fascination"? Where did you get that from? It's just another useful thing to know. It's VERY useful for certain situations with more than 1 chain-ring.
(and don't you like to know on a climb if you have any gears left??)
Ever tried repairing STI shifters on a tourer in the middle of nowhere? Neither have I - and I don't want to. Bar ends of down tubes for me.It's just hairshirted purism to choose downtube shifters over well set up STI. I have both, and especially on a flatbar bike I'd never have downtube shifters. If you want to differ, be my guest. It's your bike, and mine is mine.
As I said earlier, if I wanted to cycle across Afghanistan this might be a consideration. But I don't. If I change my mind, I'll get a bike that suits. And have you ever had a Shimano shifter break down, ever? No, neither have I.Ever tried repairing STI shifters on a tourer in the middle of nowhere? Neither have I - and I don't want to. Bar ends of down tubes for me.
As opposed to the advantage of STI being that you can operate both shifters without taking either hand off the bars, while braking or not.the beauty of a bar end or DT shifter (friction or indexed) is that its just one continuous pull with no complex ratchets. To my mind both are pretty similar to operate, one advantage of DT is you can operate them with the "wrong" hand if you so wish (i.e. whilst braking).
QR skewer keeps a hollow axle under compression. If the axle snaps it may still be rideable. A solid axle with nut is under tension so if the axle cracks everthing falls out. More useful to expedition riders in back of beyond.I'm definitely not of the luddite / nostalgic persuasion, and I tend to like newfangled and different stuff just for the sake of it being new and different, but the popularity of QRs always puzzled me.
I don't take my wheels off very often, and when I do I'm rarely in a tearing hurry. I know some people find them very useful eg when regularly transporting a bike, but they always struck me as a bit pointless. Or if not quite pointless, not very pointy. Even most hybrids come equipped with QRs.
I suppose it does mean you don't need to carry a spanner. Or maybe it's more to do with manufacturing standardisation.
You selectively quoted my post there. I agree brifters are slightly easier to use as with hands on the hoods (usual position for most people /time) you can shift and brake with out moving your hand, I never suggested otherwise. I disagree with your much repeated point that DT and Bar end shifter are the work of the devil to operate and may result in death.As opposed to the advantage of STI being that you can operate both shifters without taking either hand off the bars, while braking or not.
There's a reason why motorcycles abandoned hand gear shifters in the 1920s or 1930s, and why they were called "suicide shifters".
I have actually been obliged to repair a shifter (bar end) in the middle of the Great Sandy Desert - either repair it (the handle broke) or ride in scoching heat and stiff headwinds in the same gear for the next 300 miles. I had no Yak droppings, alas, but I was able to whittle a serviceable handle that functioned well enough. I doubt I could have whittled a new brifter...As I said earlier, if I wanted to cycle across Afghanistan this might be a consideration. But I don't. If I change my mind, I'll get a bike that suits. And have you ever had a Shimano shifter break down, ever? No, neither have I.
I don't get this fixation with being able to mend the thing in the middle of Uzbekistan using only bent wire and yak droppings, when none of the protagonists have ever been there, or will. The same goes for my car - I live in Leeds. Ah yes, but you'd have no chance repairing the ECU on that halfway across the Paris-Dakar rally, would you? No, but by the same token I don't want to go there, so I don't need a Bowler Wildcat just in case on my way to Asda.
My first choice has to be a return of head badges, no function value but a nice bit of bling.
Still avaiable in t'net at least - !A kickstand