Who's ever been to prison? I have and I'm going again.

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PaulB

PaulB

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Location
Colne
Walton Jail in Liverpool and Parkhurst prison on the Isle of Wight are the only two prisons in England/Wales (I don't know about Scotland/Northern Ireland) that have operating theatres - which is why I had to go to Walton. When I see people (readers of the Daily Heil/S*n mainly) go on about prisoners having dentists and medical treatments available they clearly don't know what they're being brainwashed into believing.

Imagine being a specialist surgeon and rather than choose a private practice on Harley Street or Rodney Street, you'd decide 'prison's the thing for me'! You don't get the best practitioners in that setting. One surgeon I used to see looked to be the sort of person drinking in the last chance saloon. Almost certainly offered a 'take-this-position-or-be-struck-off' kind of deal. He didn't work in any hospitals.

And they don't do much (any) cosmetic surgery, transplants or stent-grafts. The usual order of the operating list was 'Excision penile warts...excision penile warts...excision anal warts...excision penile warts...excision anal warts...excision anal warts' with not much variance.

The matron, who all the prisoners regarded with total awe, used to tell me how drugs got in.

All prisoners regard every day spent out of their tree and zombified as one day robbed off the state so such drugs were highly prized. Friends and relatives on the outside would throw drugs over the wall and gardeners on the inside were adept at cultivating plants and flowers with high pollen yields so the dogs wouldn't go near them. Prisoners on exercise would shuffle the drugs underneath the plants with their feet and the next opportunist seeing them would smuggle them into the prison itself. If it keeps the lid on the violence and general mayhem, a bit of a blind eye is turned. Only when a prisoner needs taking down a peg or two is a search ordered to keep him in his place.

It's frightening and so last week when I was about to develop a plan where Boris Johnson would come to a sticky end, I decided I preferred life on the outside so I let that one go.
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
Some of their lists of previous were horrendous. It’s certainly not a deterrent for the habitual offenders.
They seem to view it as an occupational hazard of their chosen path in life.
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
They seem to view it as an occupational hazard of their chosen path in life.
Afraid so, and for all the support groups for addictions offered, most of them quite openly stated the first thing they would do on release is get a tenner bag and bottle of Buckie! :sad: Afraid unless the will is there to change their lives, nothing they are offered is going to help.
 
I got banged up in a cat B many years ago. As long as you grow a pair, it wasn’t any great shakes. I believe it’s a cake walk of late.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
One thing that'd keep me out of prison are those ghastly grey 'joggers' and sweat shirts they have to wear! :thumbsdown:I suppose I could hack doing time if I was allowed my own extensive wardrobe while inside:becool:. I wouldn't mind trying one of those 'last supper' meals that prisoners have before execution in some American states. 10 cheese burgers,a bucket of fries and a gallon of choc chip ice cream sounds quite nice,:hungry:
 

Mrs M

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Location
Aberdeenshire
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One thing that'd keep me out of prison are those ghastly grey 'joggers' and sweat shirts they have to wear! :thumbsdown:I suppose I could hack doing time if I was allowed my own extensive wardrobe while inside:becool:. I wouldn't mind trying one of those 'last supper' meals that prisoners have before execution in some American states. 10 cheese burgers,a bucket of fries and a gallon of choc chip ice cream sounds quite nice,:hungry:
 
A few years back I worked on some contracts in Usk Prison and Prescoed YOI/Open Prison.

The open prison was fine, not too intimidating, but Usk closed prison was pretty depressing. It is a prison for sex offenders and the guards said they had a fairly easy job as the prisoners rarely caused any trouble as they feared being sent to a general prison. Not very PC but the wings were each painted a different pastel shade. The prison had a contract with a company to hand paint the rather expensive bird and animal ornaments they made, and I wonder if the people who paid quite a lot for them knew who had painted them.

I had a scare one night as I was working late and the meeting room I was working in was locked with me still in there. I had had to hand my phone in at the gate and there was no phone in the room so I had to spend a nervous hour or so until someone noticed I had not signed out and came looking for me.
 

Cuchilo

Prize winning member X2
Location
London
As an apprentice carpenter i worked on the Brixton prison A wing refurb . That job made me promise myself i would never ever ever be a naughty boy ! After a while i had to ask my boss why i was being sent to that job every day as i was a young man that hadn't done anything wrong . Thankfully i was never asked to go there again !
 
We visited one as part of my training, because it's a job market for some occupational therapists. It was a modern, fairly well designed place, but I wouldn't want to work in one. I'd have to do another two years training anyway.

That one allows the local sport club to use the gym in the evenings after the inmates are confined to the cell blocks at the end of the day, which must be a very strange experience.

I've worked with a lot of people who have been in prisons though: it is worrying how many ended up on drugs inside. One went inside before Smart phones were in regular use and said it was like arriving on a different planet when he came out again. I spent some time with another trying to help him put a positive spin on his prison experience for his CV.

The prisons are getting better though: recent ones are built to allow the final six months in apartments within the prison to help people get used to cooking for themselves, and many offer training: one is now the centre for training local apprentices too, which means those "inside" and "outside" integrate and work together.
 
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