winning an argument when you are right?

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young Ed

young Ed

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well i guess the overall idea is to just avoid the argument in the first place then

for all those wondering why i carry 4 knives, it is because being out on farms and living on a farm and never being in town they are very useful for all sorts and having 4 on me means if i were to mislay one or leave on in the lambing sheds and i am out in the fields or if one needs a bit of a sharpen i always have at least one good one

I carry a Swiss Army knife and the reception staff wanted to take it off me when I was going in to sit and watch at a Magistrate's Court. Luckily I had somewhere I could leave it elsewhere. They said: "you shouldn't be carrying one of those anyway", which I mildly but firmly contested, pointing out that it was endlessly useful and I had a perfect right. They wouldn't even take it off me and keep it for me during my visit - they would only post it back to me for a fee. (Going into Parliament I have had the knife and my knitting taken away and returned as I left.)

Although you may be right, @The Velvet Curtain has hit the nail on the head. Just bask privately in your superior knowledge of the law and don't make yourself unpopular. Also, frankly, carrying 4 knives is a tad excessive, even for a young farmer - after all, they can't be locking knives so that gives you limited use with duplication. (I realise you might be carrying a fixed/lockable blade if it's immediately relevant to your work/studies but you've got to be very careful about that - you can't just carry those habitually, they have to be connected to direct usage.)
so far i have never been in parliament or a court but would ensure i leave all knives, lighters etc at home in an any such instance

i am aware of the under 3 inches, folding, non locking pocket knife and all my daily carriers fall within this
yes i am occasionally out with a knife out side of this generally about a 4.5 inch fixed blade but my excuse would be i need it for farm work and i am a keen carver
Well, you achieved what I assumed was your aim: completely derailing geography. Did you make the cover teacher cry? That's always a bonus.
i guess it did mean i got incredibly little work done. unfortunately i only made the cover teacher sit their very quietly googling on their i thingy, which may have been about the knife law
he may also email i geography teacher saying that i am a dangerous individual and she needs to take matters further?
While you're at it, get the teacher to explain spelling :thumbsup::smile:
fixed that for you! :biggrin:
Cheers Ed
 

ayceejay

Guru
Location
Rural Quebec
I am not sure a school class room would be considered "in public" Ed so perhaps you were arguing at cross purposes. If it were up to me I would maintain that a class room was subject to specific rules, one being about knives.
Even though you may have won the argument that doesn't explain WHY you would want to carry a knife or four and please don't say for cutting bailer twine.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Even though you may have won the argument that doesn't explain WHY you would want to carry a knife or four and please don't say for cutting bailer twine.
On a farm they can come in quite handy. Its about the only place I carry a fixed blade.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
The issue is you shouldn't have any knife on you in school/college. It's usually the case of its not you but others. My son isn't allowed to carry his insulin on him at high school. It has to be under lock and key, again not him, but if someone else got it, managed to get a needle, then injected someone, it could easily kill them.

Knives should remain on the farm as a tool. If you got into a tussle, what if someone grabbed one of your knives and stuck it in you. Not everyone is responsible or gives a stuff about others.

You aren't allowed to carry anything like that in schools/colleges up here, never mind 4.
 

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
In america you can walk around with a bazooka.
 

Andy_R

Hard of hearing..I said Herd of Herring..oh FFS..
Location
County Durham
By the way the spelling is still wrong - it is their -i before e except after c and except in their.

:laugh:

(I didn't want to post that but Fnaar made me)
hah...that old chestnut! There are more words spelled with e before i than i before e, if QI is to be believed......lets have a spell off (I refuse to say "spelling bee" because a: I'm not of the North American persuasion, b: Bees can't actuall spell, and c: Neither can I)
 

Ganymede

Veteran
Location
Rural Kent
so far i have never been in parliament or a court but would ensure i leave all knives, lighters etc at home in an any such instance
Well I always mean to. I'm careful for planes as then you just have to chuck your knife away - happened to me once only, never again! But in most places they will take the thing off you and give it back when you come out, so it doesn't matter that you have it with you as long as you remember to pick it up on the way out. I had to go back to Parliament the next day to get my knitting as I'd forgotten it. Had a nice chat about knitting with the policeman.

I once took an axe onto a plane - it was a small plane and I had to take it out of my main luggage and give it to the captain put it under his seat for the flight - which was actually more accessible to me than if it had been left in the luggage. Then he walked across the tarmac with me to the large international terminal that we'd landed at and handed it back to me to walk into a large public building surrounded by hundreds of people. Bonkers.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Exactamundo classic, as fossyant says - a useful tool on the farm - in the classroom a potential weapon.
So's a pencil. Saw someone that had been stabbed in the arm with one.

@fossyant, all medication has to be kept under lock and key in a school.
That should include any carried by a teacher or other staff member.
 

ayceejay

Guru
Location
Rural Quebec
You are on your own with that crapola classic. For your enjoyment read any US site that pops up when you punch in "Guns don't kill people".
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Im content with living in Leeds

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