winning an argument when you are right?

[Ganymede]

Mind you, @Cubist, you're right about dangerous to open - I have cut myself a couple of times applying too much force to a Swiss Army Knife and having it boing shut on my finger. Once quite badly. Much prefer my Opinel, but they are not legal to carry.

 

[Archie_tect]

Uh-oh...

 

[young Ed]

Found a modelling scalpel with a rigid plastic cover over the blade at the bottom of my pannier the other day, I use it to cut the long ends off zip ties. So, this is presumably highly illegal and I should get myself a small penknife?

yes technically you shouldn't be carrying this but it depends if any officer who questions you about it deems trimming zipties, fabric and cutting tape, bandages and string a good enough reason to be carrying it

You're a 70kg 15 year old who likes to get into fights and carries 4 knives outside of school? He probably should at least give someone the word, just in case.

(I had a friend who got out of teaching in schools and into distance education - she phones and emails her students - after she intervened when one student grabbed another's breasts and he pulled a knife on her)

the fights i enjoy never get too serious- as in to the point where serious injury is potential
and i would never use a knife to defend my self or against any person

There are times when you know you are right, the other involved know you are right, but for what ever reason they won't accept that you are right, then it is time to walk away, They are fools, and at sometime in the future they will remember what you told them and it will all make sense.to them. Be the bigger person, keep quiet and bask in the smug knowledge that you are right..

i have since decided to label label said nobber as a nobber and as @SpokeyDokey said he is indeed academically smart and of a class slightly higher than me but does seem as if in the real world and in the world of work he will struggle


and yes i do indeed carry four knives and the law said nothing about the maximum number of knives i may carry so i could theoretically line my huge coat with folding knives under 3 inch blade non-locking and i wouldn't have a problem
Cheers Ed

 

[KneesUp]

the fights i enjoy never get too serious- as in to the point where serious injury is potential
and i would never use a knife to defend my self or against any person

The point is that someone else might use the knife. Also, any fight can get serious very quickly if someone loses their rag, or if someone falls and cracks their head.

and yes i do indeed carry four knives and the law said nothing about the maximum number of knives i may carry so i could theoretically line my huge coat with folding knives under 3 inch blade non-locking and i wouldn't have a problem
Cheers Ed

You don't need four knives. You may think you do, and you may come up with reasons you think you do. But you don't need them. Not even on the farm. But especially not when you are at school when, presumably, you are not farming.

 

[young Ed]

Mind you, @Cubist, you're right about dangerous to open - I have cut myself a couple of times applying too much force to a Swiss Army Knife and having it boing shut on my finger. Once quite badly. Much prefer my Opinel, but they are not legal to carry.

does seem a shame but a pair of pliers taken to the locking ring makes it carry legal assuming the blade is under 3"
Cheers Ed

 

[Ganymede]

does seem a shame but a pair of pliers taken to the locking ring makes it carry legal assuming the blade is under 3"
Cheers Ed

Yes but the reason I like it is because it locks! Mind you, it also makes a good steak knife so tends to stay in the kitchen!

 

[young Ed]

The point is that someone else might use the knife. Also, any fight can get serious very quickly if someone loses their rag, or if someone falls and cracks their head.



You don't need four knives. You may think you do, and you may come up with reasons you think you do. But you don't need them. Not even on the farm. But especially not when you are at school when, presumably, you are not farming.

as per my OP i do not carry them in school due to law saying that only people such as school caretakers or external tradesman such as window fitters or builders are allowed a knife in a school
i also carry the 4 knives as one is pretty much useless and is only on me due to being part of a multi tool i have for the pliers and the other 3 all have a great sentimental value and there have been times where i have had one knife in one building whilst i am using one and i have lent the third to someone else
Cheers Ed

 

[KneesUp]

as per my OP i do not carry them in school due to law saying that only people such as school caretakers or external tradesman such as window fitters or builders are allowed a knife in a school
i also carry the 4 knives as one is pretty much useless and is only on me due to being part of a multi tool i have for the pliers and the other 3 all have a great sentimental value and there have been times where i have had one knife in one building whilst i am using one and i have lent the third to someone else
Cheers Ed

I'm glad to hear you don't have them in school.

As I said, I am sure you can find reasons to four, but you don't need them all. If they have sentimental value, leave them somewhere safe.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

This was my 22 year old son's finger after sharpening his knife

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Just remember owning knives - it's not big and it's not clever

If he test the sharpness on the back of his thumbnail next time he won't leak all that red stuff.


GC

 

[Cubist]

Crikey, Cubist, you have an altogether too exciting life.

Trust me, there are times when I would have gladly swapped it for an opportunity to sit in parliament, knitting!

 

[Cubist]

Mind you, @Cubist, you're right about dangerous to open - I have cut myself a couple of times applying too much force to a Swiss Army Knife and having it boing shut on my finger. Once quite badly. Much prefer my Opinel, but they are not legal to carry.

Well, strictly speaking they are, as long as you have a good reason......... Same with your knitting needles. The law was written to close loopholes, and if I went to the pub with my knitting needle in my pocket, without a ball of Sirdar fluffy Cashmere in the other, I'd be as guilty of the offence as someone carrying a Samurai sword to the opera.

 

[Drago]

This was my 22 year old son's finger after sharpening his knife

View attachment 58419

Just remember owning knives - it's not big and it's not clever

He used his finger to sharpen a knife? I prefer a whetstone myself.

 

[Ganymede]

Trust me, there are times when I would have gladly swapped it for an opportunity to sit in parliament, knitting!

Or in fact outside Parliament knitting, as they wouldn't let me take it inside! Just as well really, I might have met a minister I didn't like, and there are plenty of them...

I wonder if MPs are allowed to knit. Probably not much time for it even if they wanted to.

 

[jefmcg]

Or in fact outside Parliament knitting, as they wouldn't let me take it inside! Just as well really, I might have met a minister I didn't like, and there are plenty of them...

I wonder if MPs are allowed to knit. Probably not much time for it even if they wanted to.

I'm sure MPs can take all manner of things into their workplace, that strangers can not.

The kitchen staff - for example - would be bringing knives in everyday; but they have been properly vetted before hand.

 

[KneesUp]

I'm sure MPs can take all manner of things into their workplace, that strangers can not.

The kitchen staff - for example - would be bringing knives in everyday; but they have been properly vetted before hand.

Surely the kitchens have knives in them for the chefs to use?