winning an argument when you are right?

[buggi]

what is the actual law bcoz I'm not sure you can carry 4 without having good reason, I don't think "in case I lost one" is a good enough reason too carry 4 and the "I use it on the farm" probably won't stand you in good stead if you're in town. Sections of the law get updated all the time so you might want to check in light of recent knife crimes

 

[classic33]

Well I always mean to. I'm careful for planes as then you just have to chuck your knife away - happened to me once only, never again! But in most places they will take the thing off you and give it back when you come out, so it doesn't matter that you have it with you as long as you remember to pick it up on the way out. I had to go back to Parliament the next day to get my knitting as I'd forgotten it. Had a nice chat about knitting with the policeman.

I once took an axe onto a plane - it was a small plane and I had to take it out of my main luggage and give it to the captain put it under his seat for the flight - which was actually more accessible to me than if it had been left in the luggage. Then he walked across the tarmac with me to the large international terminal that we'd landed at and handed it back to me to walk into a large public building surrounded by hundreds of people. Bonkers.

And he wouldn't have been allowed to take his fountain pen into the cockpit.

 

[summerdays]

@fossyant, all medication has to be kept under lock and key in a school.
That should include any carried by a teacher or other staff member.

That can't be true as I know some carry their own inhalers for a start.

 

[KneesUp]

And he wouldn't have been allowed to take his fountain pen into the cockpit.

Is that a euphemism?

 

[classic33]

Is that a euphemism?

No.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

On a farm they can come in quite handy. Its about the only place I carry a fixed blade.

They're not as handy as tractors or quad bikes.

 

[Arch]

Well I always mean to. I'm careful for planes as then you just have to chuck your knife away - happened to me once only, never again! But in most places they will take the thing off you and give it back when you come out, so it doesn't matter that you have it with you as long as you remember to pick it up on the way out. I had to go back to Parliament the next day to get my knitting as I'd forgotten it. Had a nice chat about knitting with the policeman.

I once took an axe onto a plane - it was a small plane and I had to take it out of my main luggage and give it to the captain put it under his seat for the flight - which was actually more accessible to me than if it had been left in the luggage. Then he walked across the tarmac with me to the large international terminal that we'd landed at and handed it back to me to walk into a large public building surrounded by hundreds of people. Bonkers.

Apparently NT once had a small adjustable spanner taken off him at an airport. Presumably they thought he would attempt to dismantle the plane in mid air...

14 years ago, I was working on an archaeological field school, which had a lot of US students on it, and one of them had managed to bring a couple of huge hunting knives with him. We caught him showing them off to fellow students, and suggested he might not be so lucky getting them back out of the UK again. No idea if he did, this was pre 9/11

 

[KneesUp]

Apparently NT once had a small adjustable spanner taken off him at an airport. Presumably they thought he would attempt to dismantle the plane in mid air...

14 years ago, I was working on an archaeological field school, which had a lot of US students on it, and one of them had managed to bring a couple of huge hunting knives with him. We caught him showing them off to fellow students, and suggested he might not be so lucky getting them back out of the UK again. No idea if he did, this was pre 9/11

That's not a knife

 

[vernon]

My son isn't allowed to carry his insulin on him at high school. It has to be under lock and key, again not him, but if someone else got it, managed to get a needle, then injected someone, it could easily kill them.

That can't be true as I know some carry their own inhalers for a start.

The use and security of medications are down to the policies of the individual schools and their interpretation of locally drafted rules and regulations.

New guidance has been issued https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa..._pupils_at_school_with_medical_conditions.pdf

Pages fifteen and sixteen are of interest.

 

[vernon]

such as today in my geography class we had a cover teacher and as things always do things got a bit out of hand and somehow i managed to get onto the topic of KNIFE LAW and as to what i can carry in public and what i can't, before i knew it i was in a full blown argument with the teacher and half the class!

so there i was trying to quote section 139 of the law which relates to carrying a bladed article in public basically and in the end i googled it on the teachers i thingy and proved the teacher wrong but everyone one else was still trying to tell me thier version of the law where i was some how breaking the law by always carrying 4 uk carry legal knives on me anywhere but school and that i needed to give the police good reasoning


so the long and short of it is what would you do? i was incredibly close to giving a lad i hate as it is a firm blow round the head but i realised this was only going to land my self in s**t
Cheers Ed

I'm really not sure what the function of four knives are apart from supporting your ego.

 

[classic33]

That's not a knife

Got one just like that.

 

[Tim Hall]

The issue is you shouldn't have any knife on you in school/college. It's usually the case of its not you but others. My son isn't allowed to carry his insulin on him at high school. It has to be under lock and key, again not him, but if someone else got it, managed to get a needle, then injected someone, it could easily kill them.

Knives should remain on the farm as a tool. If you got into a tussle, what if someone grabbed one of your knives and stuck it in you. Not everyone is responsible or gives a stuff about others.

You aren't allowed to carry anything like that in schools/colleges up here, never mind 4.

Reading @young Ed's OP, it says " i was some how breaking the law by always carrying 4 uk carry legal knives on me anywhere but school ". So he didn't have them at school.

 

[vernon]

Reading @young Ed's OP, it says " i was some how breaking the law by always carrying 4 uk carry legal knives on me anywhere but school ". So he didn't have them at school.

Nevertheless I think that he'd have a hard time justifying carrying four knives anywhere but on his farm to the police. What does @Cubist think?

 

[Cubist]

The 4 bit is a name, it stands for Legal.For.UK.Carry.

It is lawful to carry a folding pocket knife with a blade, the cutting edge of which does not exceed 7.62cm.
Folding means that it must be able to be closed in a single folding action, ie no lock or.sliding knives. Butterfly knives are classed as an offensive weapon per se.

For any other bladed or.sharply pointed implement, the person carrying it must have good reason to do so.

 

[Cubist]

If I'm wrong, and he does actually carry four small folding pocket knives, then he remains within the law, and doesn't need to justify it to anyone I'm afraid.