Workplace Parking II - Tax Spaces ?

[theclaud]

I normally see about half a dozen cycle commuters on the way into work over 5 miles. I motorcycle commute, and so am rarely held up.

We did this commuting times thing a few weeks ago. Cycle commuting was the slowest behind motorcycles, and motorcycle commuting was again slower than car commuting when taking into account disabling security, suiting up and changing.

Add a shower onto the end of commutes in both directions, and cycling in terms of time becomes an indulgence - as does motorcycling given the reasons above. A car by comparison is just jump in and drive. - I'm on the motorcycle today BTW - I'm indulging myself by using it

We ran a race commuter challenge over a five-mile route from Gowerton to Swansea City Centre. I (road cyclist) won it came in first. Not far behind me was a kick-bike (scooter with 700c wheels). Two more bikes (using bike paths) came in next. Then two runners. The the guy on the train. Then the guy in the car. The guy on the bus admittedly came last, but that's because all the f***ing cars were in the way.

 

[Linford]

Perhaps you are on the wrong forum?

If you do anything for 'fun', then you are indulging yourself - be it drive a car, ride a cycle/motorcycle, jog etc etc

 

[theclaud]

If you do anything for 'fun', then you are indulging yourself - be it drive a car, ride a cycle/motorcycle, jog etc etc

So you're OK with people cycling to work, as long as they don't enjoy it? A puritan approach to commuting! Would you like it if we all sit on spikes when we get there?

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

By the way, what happened to the idea of CycleChat car stickers?

 

[theclaud]

By the way, what happened to the idea of CycleChat car stickers?

Will they say "Ditch this heap of **** and ride a ****ing bike"? I'll take 5,000.

 

[fimm]

Most of the people in my co chill out in the lunch hour. All of the shop floor jobs involve manual labour - you need to be fit to do the job.

While I am in an office full of IT bods who don't.

 

[User482]

If you do anything for 'fun', then you are indulging yourself - be it drive a car, ride a cycle/motorcycle, jog etc etc

My horrible clunker,MTB, about 2 weeks ago, and not riding it as the bottom bracket is fubarred . My motorcycle, about 8 hours ago. I'll have another roadie in a month or so with all being well so a lot more then, It is difficult to indulge oneself without access to the proper kit

Yet you manage to run a car and motorbike. Priorities linf, priorities.

 

[Linford]

We ran a race commuter challenge over a five-mile route from Gowerton to Swansea City Centre. I (road cyclist) won it came in first. Not far behind me was a kick-bike (scooter with 700c wheels). Two more bikes (using bike paths) came in next. Then two runners. The the guy on the train. Then the guy in the car. The guy on the bus admittedly came last, but that's because all the f***ing cars were in the way.

No motorcycle in this mix then for totally unbiased comparison - that's why you didn't come second in this 'contest' then.

Last time I was in Swansea, they had a few bus lanes. The bus passenger likely took as long as they did because the buses stop to pick people up every 1/4 mile. Had they done the run without stopping, and used the bus lanes, they would have likely beaten all the other modes - including the cars - you are very economical with the truth when it suits

Yet you manage to run a car and motorbike. Priorities linf, priorities.

If you are asking me to justify why I didn't sell the family car or a motorbike I waited 7 years to acquire when my Giant Roadie was pinched you really are a plank User482

I cycle for leisure. I'm not trying to save the planet, or 'prove' that other modes of transport are rubbish. Each has its strengths, and weaknesses.

This is the way I see it if you are at all hard of reasoning:-

Around town, and using all the short cuts, if the cycle of traffic lights are against the cars, a bicycle does it every time. Mix town and open road, the motorbike wins every time (no shadow of a doubt). Pissing down rain, or stuff to lug around, the car wins every time.

I apply that logic as I'm no masochist when it comes to getting from A to B.

The car is just transport which the lifestyle of my family goes a long way in dicating, The cycle and motorcycle are fun which I can take or leave when conditions determine that they aren't.

Is this clear enough ?

 

[srw]

I'm afraid we're getting rather off topic here, and I apologise to the OP - this will be my only contribution.

Last time I was in Swansea, they had a few bus lanes. The bus passenger likely took as long as they did because the buses stop to pick people up every 1/4 mile. Had they done the run without stopping, and used the bus lanes, they would have likely beaten all the other modes

You mean - if the bus hadn't been a bus at all.

So - taxing car parking at work. A good idea, Linford? In your case it might begin to compensate your workplace's neighbours for the externalities of your pleasurable commute to work.

 

[Linford]

I'm afraid we're getting rather off topic here, and I apologise to the OP - this will be my only contribution.


You mean - if the bus hadn't been a bus at all.

So - taxing car parking at work. A good idea, Linford? In your case it might begin to compensate your workplace's neighbours for the externalities of your pleasurable commute to work.

I commute on a motorbike - I don't 'need' a parking space. My workplace neighbours also commute by car or motorcycle. If I am held up, it is usually because of all the dozy car driving paper chasers and statisicians working for a very big insurance company on the way to it who neither know the speed limits, or are aware of what else is on the road around them. Worst drivers on the road by a long chalk at that time of the day.

 

[srw]

I commute on a motorbike - I don't 'need' a parking space.

This would be the magic motorbike which emits no exhaust fumes, no carbon dioxide and no noise, can't possibly injure anyone if it crashes into them, and hovers in mid-air above your factory when it arrives.

Where can I get one?

 

[Linford]

This would be the magic motorbike which emits no exhaust fumes, no carbon dioxide and no noise, can't possibly injure anyone if it crashes into them, and hovers in mid-air above your factory when it arrives.

Where can I get one?

So because I ride a motorbike, I'm going to automatically crash and injure someone else ?

Tell me also what is this mythical job you do also which does not have a carbon footprint ?

Finally, it parks where I want to park it - it doesn't need a specific parking space. It can go in the bike shed, or in the building where a cycle would go if I commuted on that if I so chose it.

Oh, it is also very very loud when wound right up. I make no excuses for that

good to see you have some set views on things anyway

 

[The Jogger]

Wouldn't make a difference in the big smoke.
Those who drive, are those who are willing and are able to pay what ever costs.

The rest of us are far too sensible to drive and use other modes of transportation.

Some of us have to commute into the big smoke at awkward times before or after trains are running, live too far to cycle so there is no other option, then to punish them / us with extra tax for trying to earn a living is a bit below the belt. Even if there is only a few of us do it, it still matters to the person that has no choice, other than move and often that isn't a choice. I commute 5 hours a day usually a mix of train , car and bike sometimes just bike and train but sometimes just car,

 

[Linford]

Some of us have to commute into the big smoke at awkward times before or after trains are running, live too far to cycle so there is no other option, then to punish them / us with extra tax for trying to earn a living is a bit below the belt. Even if there is only a few of us do it, it still matters to the person that has no choice, other than move and often that isn't a choice. I commute 5 hours a day usually a mix of train , car and bike sometimes just bike and train but sometimes just car,

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There is always a choice - you can live close enough to cycle commute if you live in a cardboard box under a bridge.

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[Norm]

Whilst the tired stuff about whether or not Linf cycles will offer another opportunity to post the funniest picture I've seen in years, please keep somewhere close to the subject rather than giving another excuse to test the moderating tools.