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night cycler

Legendary Member
I have enjoyed You tube for well over 20 years like many others. Recently I have been watching.

Certain parts seems to have been infiltrated by Ai.
One guy on there with various names
Arthur Hayes
Michael Bennette

I must say I like the general sound.
A couple of days ago I noticed Ai being used rapidly . All well and good so far.
Will this remain safe.
Your thoughts?
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
I did notice a whole raft of AI created nonsense on YT, often factually incorrect, showing the wrong aircraft for instance , a Hurricane instead of a Spitfire, just mind numbing rubbish . One example was headed sometging like 'Rescue and Bringing back to life crashed Spitfire' (or similar wording)
They crane an aircraft from the sea (tgis is all AI generated)...pressure washer it off to find gleaming metal :smile: in some areas or rust that they mig weld repair :smile: then miraculously strip and rebuild the engine etc...and then its back in the air :smile: :smile:
Utter tosh..
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
I've seen an amount of AI rubbish on there; some easy to spot, some not. It seems to be infiltrating both the content and the comments. Sadly it's not just isolated to Youtube.

Of greater immediate concern with that platform for me personally is the degradation of the format to favour short-form, clickbait rubbish, games and other mind-rotting dross.. as well as odd changes to the search results that seem to offer you all manner of irrelevant crap (again, a lot of "shorts") before anything you might actually want to view.

I have however just discovered a firefox plugin to bin off all the crap so hopefully that'll allow me to eke out a bit more use from the platform before it likely goes the way Facebook and other lowest-common-denominator-driven sites (although I've just found another plugin to remove all content that's not from people / groups you're directly involved with, so cuts out all the rage-bait rubbish which is incredibly welcome).

Back to the AI thing, it's very possible that we're bearing witness to the slow death of the internet. It seems that many popular sites are being diluted down to meaningless piss with AI content - either people posting AI content or comments / content being posted by bots.

I've also noticed a worrying rise in sites created exclusively with AI, which seem to exist to game search results (presumably to push ads) with content that purports to be informative but actually is just total b*llocks. Presented as being from an informed / authoritative position, containing both relevant (subject-specific) keywords and management-speak type buzz-words, it manages to be very verbose and word-heavy whilst never actually offering or imparting any knoweledge relevant to the claimed subject or indeed having any meaning at all.

I've noticed a lot of these on cycling; with maybe 3-4 coming up in the top 10 search results for whatever I was looking for.

It's not hard to see how the internet will eventually be full of so much meaningless, contradictory tripe that even the factually accurate sources will be worthless as you'll have no way of distinguishing them from everything else.

This is potentially extremely concerning given the increasing appetite for revisionism by various governments and powerful individuals. While there have been AI bots pushing political agendas on many social media sites for years the rot really seems to be spreading to everything now.

One notable, very welcome exception seems to be traditional BB style forums like CC - presumably because they're so small they're of little interest..
 
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postman

Squire
Location
,Leeds
I have enjoyed You tube for well over 20 years like many others. Recently I have been watching.

Certain parts seems to have been infiltrated by Ai.
One guy on there with various names
Arthur Hayes
Michael Bennette

I must say I like the general sound.
A couple of days ago I noticed Ai being used rapidly . All well and good so far.
Will this remain safe.
Your thoughts?
Sorry i read that as Arthur Haynes and Michael Bentine.
 

DRM

Legendary Member
Location
West Yorks

View: https://youtu.be/RIiKGoYXHVs

Rhett Shull is a well known guitar topic You Tuber, he's now got some AI generated carp ripping his channel off
Rabea Massad is another top rock guitarist, currently playing with Vower, discussing this AI woman blues guitarist called Mmisoma, sadly people are being duped, with comments saying how good she is, when it's a scam, she doesn't exist

View: https://youtu.be/-Eik8uBvdxY

It's not just You Tube, Spotify is pushing this rubbish too, but with no video, it's even harder to detect, the trouble is, how can you believe what you're being shown as news on various social media platforms, and AI is only going to get better, & harder to detect, I reckon the genie is out of the bottle, & not going back in, ever.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
I use You Tube music as all my music collection is uploaded to it so I can listen to it where ever.
It's now been infested with AI music. Pisses me off. And I'm in the business of music.
All my bands work their bloody arses off year after year to make a small pitance from streaming services. They are now being squeezed out by these AI generated artists and acts. Though I shouldn't really call them that as they aren't artists.
 

Electric_Andy

Heavy Metal Fan
Location
Plymouth
I now assume that YT shorts and FB reels are just mind numbing AI nonsense, so I take it all with a pinch of salt and use it purely for light entertainment. The channels I subscribe to on YT (about 80 I think) are mostly all renovation/restoration and done by real people who I've been watching for years. If there's any hint of AI generated material, I will unsubscribe. But the channel creators are usually my age or older so I think they are on the same page as me anyway.

When I was young (in the 80s and 90s) I always thought that my parents were complaining about everything new, and they needed to embrace change. But now I am my parents, just 30 years later, and I understand what they were on about! For them it was too much Americanism, especially TV. Their version of AI was cartoons (like the Simpsons) which I loved and didn't see anything wrong with. I know AI is a different kettle of fish, and misinformation is a huge issue. But I'm just saying I know how they felt now
 
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night cycler

night cycler

Legendary Member
Sorry i read that as Arthur Haynes and Michael Bentine.

Easily done:hello:
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
The fake AI adverts really annoy me.
Selling stuff which is quite clearly fake or made to look far better than it really is.
Why would YouTube be happy to show fake products.
Does the Advertising Standards Agency have no jurisdiction over this?
 

DRM

Legendary Member
Location
West Yorks
The fake AI adverts really annoy me.
Selling stuff which is quite clearly fake or made to look far better than it really is.
Why would YouTube be happy to show fake products.
Does the Advertising Standards Agency have no jurisdiction over this?

I don't think the ASA can do anything about it, but it's amazing how many ex NASA engineers are designing & developing crap that won't cool your whole house in 90 seconds, or attachments that turn a hose pipe into a pressure washer, not.
How mankind got to the moon with this level of incompetence is a mystery
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
I don't think the ASA can do anything about it, but it's amazing how many ex NASA engineers are designing & developing crap that won't cool your whole house in 90 seconds, or attachments that turn a hose pipe into a pressure washer, not.
How mankind got to the moon with this level of incompetence is a mystery

The pressure washer ones were exactly what I was thinking of.
Anyone who has ever put their finger over the end of a hosepipe knows how much additional pressure can be exerted.
 
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wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
You can at least avoid the ads by installing a decent ad blocker, like ublock origin ;)

Tbh without this I'd probably barely use the internet at all...
 

Shut Up Legs

Down Under Member
I use You Tube music as all my music collection is uploaded to it so I can listen to it where ever.
It's now been infested with AI music. Pisses me off. And I'm in the business of music.
All my bands work their bloody arses off year after year to make a small pitance from streaming services. They are now being squeezed out by these AI generated artists and acts. Though I shouldn't really call them that as they aren't artists.

I research any new bands I discover thoroughly before deciding to buy their music, so if I found a new band on Youtube Music (which I also subscribe to), the first thing I'd do is search for it on Google. I just hope that Google (and any other search site) identifies any AI-generated bands as such. The day they stop doing that will be a pretty sad day.
 
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