What a spectacle
National hillcimb 2025 at Banks Road
View: https://youtu.be/nOs_dmQud4M?si=_b1H3w3GzgSOMG3V
National hillcimb 2025 at Banks Road
View: https://youtu.be/nOs_dmQud4M?si=_b1H3w3GzgSOMG3V
It's because zFTP isn't the same as 20 minute power. It's CP - what zwift calls "roughly what you can do for 40 minutes" which is obviously going to be lower than what you can do for 20. So yes. They literally ARE harder because you can do well over 3.4 for 20 and not get booted out, but in the days of ZP Cats you couldn't.
As someone who can do about 3.1 for 20 at the moment, I think it sucks![]()
Yeah I appreciate that's the reason why. I guess there's winners and losers from the changes as those riders who aren't getting upgraded but would have previously are probably having a lovely time! (It's still quite a flawed system whatever way you look at it though)

100%. I replied to your post, but it was meant to be adding to your explanation rather than “at” you
I still think vELO is about the best we have, but even that has annoying limitations. vELO 2 is being worked on though

Here you go, Michael!
https://www.strava.com/activities/16265065499
It was amazing yesterday; the support was incredible and the noise was deafening on the steep part of the climb. Just the best experience I’ve ever had being on a bike.
I didn’t actually have a great ride - I did 3:05.1, 478W average, 110th out of 296. With the form I had a few weeks ago I’d have expected to have been 10s faster relative to others around me, but it doesn’t really matter; I was mainly there for a Good Time, rather than a good time.
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My brother and I were off only minutes apart so we were able to get this shot after the finish. 😁
According to Ed Laverack next year's is rumoured to be on Porlock hill a much longer climb so he's doing it as it suits him more than power climbs
Meanwhile I entered the Dolphin Crit to help my anaerobic numbers
Came 3rdZP in a low turnout event 4th on the road.
Stayed with 3 strongest riders till last lap where the wimner(was a shoe in @300W/20mins) left three of us fighting for the podium. They blew me away up the cobbled climb. Enjoyed being back doing crits
View: https://youtu.be/x9SNr0CM7Yw?si=c20SfPAmLS6AzWbJ

Thanks MartinHow rude of them to hit the afterburners with 1km to go.
You looked pretty comfortable there for most of that race. Good to be back 🙌