Zwift Chat

[kipster]

Life has taken over this morning, so I'm unlikely to get the long stage done. I might do a shorter stage 6 to keep the tdz badges flowing, but I simply don't have 90 odd minutes available to me today.

Damn these outside rides.

 

[Norry1]

Bit of a chilly start so not sure if I'll be riding in or outside today. Definitely becoming a bit of a cycling softie

 

[<Tommy>]

I have a Stages single sided PM and a Garmin 530. It does me and appears to be sufficient for my coach to work out what he needs to work out.

I'm not sure for riders of our level what specific benefits dual siding recording gives but if you need those benefits you have a smart bike don't you? That would record that anyway.

Either way as long as you are not riding different brands on different bikes it won't matter what you chose, just use the ones that fit best for you. And if you fancy a dual sided one go for it More stats are always good!

I assumed Michal was thinking about using power for real world cycling.

I guess it’s just more accurate having dual. Most people don’t have the same power on both sides. Mine is typically 52/48. I think maybe it’s more trouble than it’s worth trying to correct it. But dual gives you a slightly more accurate picture. Alternatively it gives you a slight power upgrade or downgrade on zwift, depending on your stronger leg.

 

[JuhaL]

Yes im there, see you briefly at the start . @JuhaL did the ride the other day 1hr50 its a long un

Actually my stage-6 time was 1hr41min, the rest was cooling down after a finish banner. when i cut a finish line my time was 1hr39 but zwiftpower always add little bit extra. I didn’t try ride fast i could, i ride flat z2 and z3 powerzones, only fox hill and box hill i try to put harder effort. Cheers to everyone.

 

[Peter Salt]

Speaking of hills: I finally rode up the Alpe yesterday. Was so tired I forgot to brag about it

Goal was to get at least 200W through each segment (current theoretical FTP based on 20-min effort) and that happened so quite pleased with myself. Heartrate was already 179 at bend 11 and it felt like I just won't be able to hold that pace, but eventually convinced my body that it's just happening and things settled down - physically and mentally. That said, I really feel like if it was 100m longer I would have just died - really gave it every last bit. Time up the KOM was 65:39 so lots room for improvement. Drops haul was around 45k so very decent. Will actually consider doing it every week now.

 

[mjd1988]

Speaking of hills: I finally rode up the Alpe yesterday. Was so tired I forgot to brag about it

Goal was to get at least 200W through each segment (current theoretical FTP based on 20-min effort) and that happened so quite pleased with myself. Heartrate was already 179 at bend 11 and it felt like I just won't be able to hold that pace, but eventually convinced my body that it's just happening and things settled down - physically and mentally. That said, I really feel like if it was 100m longer I would have just died - really gave it every last bit. Time up the KOM was 65:39 so lots room for improvement. Drops haul was around 45k so very decent. Will actually consider doing it every week now.

That is a cracking time, especially for first effort, well paced

 

[bobinski]

If you get a power meter you’ll need both. So on the premise you’re getting a power meter get a new computer too.

Maybe have a think about what you’ll use it for Michael. If you’re planning on doing a lot of mapping bigger screens are better. Both because the map is easier to see and also you can get more metrics on the screen while still keeping a reasonable sized map.

I would get a new computer rather than second hand too for what it’s worth. The batteries degrade over time and when you’re out the longer the battery life the better really. You don’t know how much of s battering it’s taken second hand. Also it’s good to have the warranty.

I agree with martin. I have two crank based power meters but if I were to buy one right now it would be dual assioma. Provided you can get along with look cleats.

Now available in Shimano fit too albeit a slightly wider Q factor.

 

[JuhaL]

Speaking of hills: I finally rode up the Alpe yesterday. Was so tired I forgot to brag about it

Goal was to get at least 200W through each segment (current theoretical FTP based on 20-min effort) and that happened so quite pleased with myself. Heartrate was already 179 at bend 11 and it felt like I just won't be able to hold that pace, but eventually convinced my body that it's just happening and things settled down - physically and mentally. That said, I really feel like if it was 100m longer I would have just died - really gave it every last bit. Time up the KOM was 65:39 so lots room for improvement. Drops haul was around 45k so very decent. Will actually consider doing it every week now.

One reason why i like Zwift is i can change trainer difficulty setting easier. That give me much more reasonable/higher cadence speed when i try to conquer virtual mountains. Now in current indoor season i have focused more base training without loading too much power in every session, something like ride z2 and z3 zones. Feels better method for my development, when outdoor season comes then it's more time to ride bit harder... if i can.

 

[mjd1988]

Now available in Shimano fit too albeit a slightly wider Q factor.

Yeah the Shi spindles? Must look into that too

One reason why i like Zwift is i can change trainer difficulty setting easier. That give me much more reasonable/higher cadence speed when i try to conquer virtual mountains. Now in current indoor season i have focused more base training without loading too much power in every session, something like ride z2 and z3 zones. Feels better method for my development, when outdoor season comes then it's more time to ride bit harder... if i can.

I know on RGT you can change quite easily, is that not the case on other Sims?

 

[JuhaL]

I know on RGT you can change quite easily, is that not the case on other Sims?

Bkool for example. You can change slope reduction unless if you select the ride what is already started.

 

[Brusgaard]

Bkool for example. You can change slope reduction unless if you select the ride what is already started.

BKOOL actually changes the slope, effectively converting the route to a flatter one - that's why you don't get points for finishing them.
Zwift changes the gearing (i.e. makes you go slower in game) which is why you still get full XPs/drops.

 

[JuhaL]

BKOOL actually changes the slope, effectively converting the route to a flatter one - that's why you don't get points for finishing them.
Zwift changes the gearing (i.e. makes you go slower in game) which is why you still get full XPs/drops.

BigRingVR is doing a thing similar as Bkool, as far as i understood?. That's why i like Zwift method, you can have more gears when you change difficulty setting easier, that helps me if i want to do base training when i climb virtual mountains without losing cadence speed too much.

 

[<Tommy>]

Speaking of hills: I finally rode up the Alpe yesterday. Was so tired I forgot to brag about it

Goal was to get at least 200W through each segment (current theoretical FTP based on 20-min effort) and that happened so quite pleased with myself. Heartrate was already 179 at bend 11 and it felt like I just won't be able to hold that pace, but eventually convinced my body that it's just happening and things settled down - physically and mentally. That said, I really feel like if it was 100m longer I would have just died - really gave it every last bit. Time up the KOM was 65:39 so lots room for improvement. Drops haul was around 45k so very decent. Will actually consider doing it every week now.

Good stuff Pete 👍👍

 

[CXRAndy]

Actually my stage-6 time was 1hr41min, the rest was cooling down

Apologies Juha I just saw your Strava ride...assumed you just stopped after the finish

Well that's what I tend to do

 

[<Tommy>]

Anyone else watching the tennis?!