berty bassett
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Old schoolA big day today.
Just changed my settings on Strava etc. to metric from imperial. I wonder if I'll keep them this way
alex_cycles
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I like °C, climb in m, distance in miles, weight in kg. Strava won't let me do that, so the compromise is distance in kmA big day today.
Just changed my settings on Strava etc. to metric from imperial. I wonder if I'll keep them this way
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alex_cycles
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I'm doing the 6-week FTP-builder in Zwift. Just started week 5. It's got to the point now where the hardest workouts each week are a bit harder than I can do all in one go without stopping.
So when doing a workout that you can't complete the targets. What's the best thing to do?
So when doing a workout that you can't complete the targets. What's the best thing to do?
- Stop and call it a day
- take a short pause for a couple of minutes then carry on (this tends to repeat - ask me how I know)?
- dial down the intensity (bias) on-the-fly in zwift companion
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I'm doing the 6-week FTP-builder in Zwift. Just started week 5. It's got to the point now where the hardest workouts each week are a bit harder than I can do all in one go without stopping.
So when doing a workout that you can't complete the targets. What's the best thing to do?
My gut-feel is better to do it than not do it (or why bother training at all?) and quitting is NOT AN OPTION.
- Stop and call it a day
- take a short pause for a couple of minutes then carry on (this tends to repeat - ask me how I know)?
- dial down the intensity (bias) on-the-fly in zwift companion
If these are short intervals less than 3 mins, you should try and achieve the power figure even if you cant hold it for the duration.
Ideally you stick to the plan, but I dont see an issue having extra micro rests between intervals.
Once you cant hit the power figure or stop very early in the interval-stop the workout.
Intervals are best done fully rested for maximal efforts
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I don't know what's "best" to do but if it was me I think I'd dial down the intensity and try to finish it. Don't ask me how I know that's what I'd doI'm doing the 6-week FTP-builder in Zwift. Just started week 5. It's got to the point now where the hardest workouts each week are a bit harder than I can do all in one go without stopping.
So when doing a workout that you can't complete the targets. What's the best thing to do?
My gut-feel is better to do it than not do it (or why bother training at all?) and quitting is NOT AN OPTION.
- Stop and call it a day
- take a short pause for a couple of minutes then carry on (this tends to repeat - ask me how I know)?
- dial down the intensity (bias) on-the-fly in zwift companion
alex_cycles
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It was this one, done today after a full rest day yesterday. I cracked after the third FTP interval at 56 minutes. My heart rate was into VO2 max territory and I had nothing much left to give. I did manage to finish it, but with 4 rest breaks.
I don't know what's "best" to do but if it was me I think I'd dial down the intensity and try to finish it. Don't ask me how I know that's what I'd do
I think I'll try that next time
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It was this one, done today after a full rest day yesterday. I cracked after the third FTP interval at 56 minutes. My heart rate was into VO2 max territory and I had nothing much left to give. I did manage to finish it, but with 4 rest breaks.
I think I'll try that next time
I always thought less than 3mins intervals should be greater than FTP.
Like 1 min intervals around 125-150% of FTP.
This is the reason I like Trainer Road for their workouts. TR also suggest that once you drop to 110% of ftp on short 1 min intervals-stop the workout and try when more refreshed.
Giving Zwift the benefit, they do describe this Threshold development- I'd have thought going above threshold for short HIT would be better time spent.
alex_cycles
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It was a Zwift ramp test. But the result from that's actually very close to 95% of my best 20 minutes from a Crit city race.
And yes. I really don't like those 100 and 105 RPM bits. My natural cadence on the road is about 75-80 RPM
Peter Salt
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Apologies, Tommy, it does a bit. Most importantly: No one is changing anything. They are public testing to see how it works in practice. I.e. following a reasonable development process instead of just making the changes regardless of what people think or testing them in lab environments. That is good.
I'm sure that as a result of the tests they will fine-tune their categorisation algorithms, do another bunch of tests, etc. and see where it leads them. Even if they scrap the idea, I think it's good that a developer acknowledges the issues and at least tries to address them.
On the system itself, the detailed description seems to suggest that both aerobic and anaerobic power has bearing which is great. This would, for example, solve the issue of Team NL Elite in our C ZRL. - They're all sandbaggers, literally riding every race on cat boundaries, likely monitoring 20-min effort to make sure they don't get promoted. However, since sprints have no bearing on cat they sweep 80% of all FAL/FTS points in races.
If I was Zwift I would actually keep categorisation rules a secret so no one could accurately avoid promotion.
That's the reason you struggled. 75-80 is quite low cadence, will force your legs to flood with lactic acid. Whilst your cardio isnt too stressed. Using a high cadence 95rpm plus helps the legs from flooding too early. It does take time to build leg speed. When I began back on Zwift last November my cadence was lower than my previous bests. Around 80rpm and I felt that was the only way to make power. Now some three to four months later my cadence is up into the low 90s rpm. My best sustainable power came from around 95rpm
