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Driver was a tool for driving like that, rider was unwise to ride attired like that, in those conditions.So the colour of his clothing is irrelevant and the driver is bang to rights.
Driver was a tool for driving like that, rider was unwise to ride attired like that, in those conditions.So the colour of his clothing is irrelevant and the driver is bang to rights.
rider was unwise to ride attired like that, in those conditions
Driver was a tool for driving like that, rider was unwise to ride attired like that, in those conditions.
Depends on your definition of Hi Viz. In my world (construction sites, railway lines) Hi Viz is the yellow or orange clothing (fluorescent) with reflective stripes, so it covers both options. They do depend on someone looking though. (I can't see how clothing could have helped either).Hi viz doesn't work at night, and reflection only when the headlights hit it. The cyclist is quite visible in headlights (see below) so I don't see how clothing could have helped
(rr has me on ignore, so he won't see this)
I love it when people write "end of story" and the like. It isn't. That makes me.That roundabout is on my commute and it is extremely well lit. (Perhaps the vid makes it look darker).
100% driver fault end of story.
Having hi viz could have helped, by 'catching the eye' of the driver, so to speak. Or giving the driver a better chance to have spotted the cyclist a bit earlier. Let's also not forget the difference between this.Depends on your definition of Hi Viz. In my world (construction sites, railway lines) Hi Viz is the yellow or orange clothing (fluorescent) with reflective stripes, so it covers both options. They do depend on someone looking though. (I can't see how clothing could have helped either).
Are we violently agreeing with each other? I was separating hi viz into it's two components, the colour and the reflection. The yellow/orange is grey under most street lighting, so doesn't help at night. The reflective material only works when it's hit by a direct light.Depends on your definition of Hi Viz. In my world (construction sites, railway lines) Hi Viz is the yellow or orange clothing (fluorescent) with reflective stripes, so it covers both options. They do depend on someone looking though. (I can't see how clothing could have helped either).
I'm surprised the driver didn't spot a tiny ineffective front light, coming from an oblique angle, in the dark, when it was raining, in amongst the other reflecting road lights, either..Again, the colour of his clothing is irrelevant as the driver didn't even spot the shiny thing on the riders bars.
The driver still could and should have noticed the rider, but the rider could and should have made a better choice of attire.
I know that roundabout well (I drive and cycle round it on a regular basis). The cyclist was coming from Wadloes Road. If the driver had bothered looking they'd have easily been able to see the cyclist. No 'oblique angle' crap...
Could be grey at night though!I'll remember that excuse for if I ever hit a dark colour car at night. "Sorry pal, its your fault for buying a dark colour. Should stick with yellow or white next time so I don't have to be as vigilant!"
You asked earlier in the thread how you had blamed the victim. There you go, that's how you blamed the victim.The driver still could and should have noticed the rider, but the rider could and should have made a better choice of attire.