jefmcg
Guru
Congratulations on overcoming your evolution. Clearly you are a higher life form than us mere mammals.
Too bad it doesn't prevent you laughing at the pain of others. I guess that the next stage in evolution.
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Congratulations on overcoming your evolution. Clearly you are a higher life form than us mere mammals.
Too bad it doesn't prevent you laughing at the pain of others. I guess that the next stage in evolution.
G3CWI
Veteran
- Location
- Macclesfield
Some drivers do appear to think that indicating gives them the right of way. Earlier this week I was cycling along a road minding my own business when a driver pulled slowly along side me, indicated left and started to make a turn into a side road. She did seem to think that I should somehow magically get out of her way. Fortunately it happened at less than 10mph and she did eventually stop. It was all rather surreal.
Jamieyorky
Veteran
- Location
- York
The difference is that you were on the road and therefore had priority.
Banjo
Fuelled with Jelly Babies
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- South Wales
Makes little difference who had right of way when you are in the intensive care ward.
Disagree, a pedestrian is unlikely to have been moving a fast as the cyclist, so i'll give the motorist the benefit of the doubt that had he seen a Ped close to the kerb he would not have made the turn
glenn forger
Guest
If the camera was on a cyclist and it was a child running on the pavement and the cyclist passes the child then turns left and knocks them over whose fault is it? The first rule ought to be don't hurt anyone. WE already know the cyclist is on the pavement so we know they're dim, this was 100% avoidable and utterly predictable. I'd give the driver the benefit of the doubt but his flat estuary disinterest in anyone's welfare strongly suggests he drove into the bearded bloke on purpose. Crap driving, in any case. Really awful driving, the rider could have had a huge arrow above him saying "This bloke is Dim" and it couldn't have been more predictable.
classic33
Leg End Member
Luck
Jimidh
Veteran
- Location
- Midlothian
Bonkers I can't believe any adult runs, rides or walks onto a road until they are sure it is clear.
Profpointy
Legendary Member
yebbut - the road is clear - until someone turns into it
Jimidh
Veteran
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- Midlothian
Hope you don't teach road safety - you don't go onto a road until you are sure a car isn't going to turn into it while you cross.
I'm amazed reading this thread that people think that the cyclist in that clip was blameless. Firing off a pavement across a road junction like he did is careless in the extreme and even though the driver should have been more aware of him it doesn't exonerate the cyclist from taking his share of the blame for a totally avoidable accident that could have ended in a much worse situation.
Profpointy
Legendary Member
That's not what I"m saying at all. What I am saying is that cars should give way to pedestrians at junctions, just like at zebra crossing.
Obviously it's wise as a pedestrian to look, but it's frankly piss-poor for drivers to claim they only have to give way "once the pedestrian has started crossing". Thus cars can keep going till the pedestrian strides out - making it a game of chicken.
Basically this means the pedestrian is a lower class citizen to be bullied out of the way
OK cyclist shouldn't have been riding on pavement in the first place, and shouldn't have been totally dozy, but that's not really my point
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