Appraisal Personal Objectives

[Piemaster]

Where my wife used to work they had regular team building role-play type training mornings.
Working on a ship we have always indulged in team building exercises. We call it "going to the pub". Probably cheaper than getting a consultant in too.

 

[Crankarm]

Objective : To avoid having to think of meaningless objectives .

Objective : To be able to get on with my job without being constantly interrupted by pointless meetings or appraisals every month .

Objective : To get the pay rise promised by the company that it has since weasled out of .

Appraisals all a load of b0ll0cks. When the organisation is doing well they go in the bin or get forgotten about. When there's a cash squeeze or business is tight they suddenly become important. They are just a nasty way of controlling employees salaries where they are linked to pay and if an organisation needs to shed staff a way to undermine people to make them leave or give reason to get rid of them. Decisions on how valuable or disposable an employee is to an organisation are decided irrespective or outside of any appraisal process. Odious things .

 

[chap]

Just been told by my manager that I have to set two personal objectives and they must be measurable and challenging.

Now, I'm not an 18 year old starting their first job and I'm not a graduate looking to climb the corporate ladder. I dont want to get into management as it involves meetings, reports and dealing with personnel. I do NOT want to 'improve' myself.

I'm 42, I just want to do my job well and will take on anything the job needs to get done, but that's it, just want to pay my mortgage and go home.

FFS, fricking waste of space HR departments trying to justify their pointless and overpaid existence. Why can't they just fuck off?

Anyone else dread this part of their working life?

Yes it is a lot of rubbish, just dish out the same tosh they serve you. Talk about leveraging bi-lateral initiatives, and in-sourcing client-facing opportunities.

 

[beanzontoast]

Nooooooo not PESTLE. People actually use that in practice? And SWOT too? I thought that was for the MBA classroom and nowhere else. Seems like somebody took notice...

SWOT's been doing the rounds for a while. Easy to grasp the S and Ws, looks pretty, often delivers zilch because the Os are beaten to a pulp by the Ts right after they steal their dinner money.

 

[MacB]

mere childsplay you wait until they tie it into the bonus, pay and disciplinary process via forced ranking, then it gets fun. You have no choice, you have to rank your employees and none of them can be ranked equal. This all filters up and the bottom 10-20% of the ranking receive no bonus or pay rise and a repeat performance can see HR meetings etc. There will always be a bottom 10-20% as it is 'forced' ranking. They can have met every target but still be ranked low for a variety of reasons, the main one being you have no choice. This was sold to us as a motivational tool

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Afterwards, she thought she got so much out of the discussion that she asked if we could do it quarterly.

I'd fire her and direct you towards some therapy.

 

[srw]

Are you a qualified to give feedback using MBTI srw?

For what it's worth, Belbin team roles are DANGEROUS. They are completely invalid and do not tell you anything worth knowing about a person or their performance. They should NEVER EVER be used in selection, and only in very specific personal development contexts.

I'm not qualified to give MBTI feedback, and wouldn't pretend to be. But as a tool for understanding myself, I find it helpful.

Why do you think Belbin roles are dangerous? It seems to me to be a valid tool for understanding my own preference and others. I use them only very informally as a recruitment tool - I know that my team is short of people with a preference for one particular way of working and so I actively seek people like that out. If I get a choice about who I can recruit, which in my line of work is incredibly rare.

These things are all models, and like all models they can give junk results. I'm lucky, I spend my entire life dealing with models* and know how to ferret out their strengths and weaknesses.


*more sig material there...

 

[srw]

mere childsplay you wait until they tie it into the bonus, pay and disciplinary process via forced ranking, then it gets fun. You have no choice, you have to rank your employees and none of them can be ranked equal. This all filters up and the bottom 10-20% of the ranking receive no bonus or pay rise and a repeat performance can see HR meetings etc. There will always be a bottom 10-20% as it is 'forced' ranking. They can have met every target but still be ranked low for a variety of reasons, the main one being you have no choice. This was sold to us as a motivational tool

Alternatively you could be honest and say that you are being ranked in comparison with your peers. You are doing an adequate job, but next to your peers you are not doing well enough.

Over the last six or seven years I can honestly say that we have never had an outcome we didn't want from this approach. We've been allowed on occasion to have no-one in the bottom band, but most of the people who have ended up in the bottom band have left of their own volition. That's an awful lot cheaper than "encouraging" them to leave.

 

[beanzontoast]

I'd fire her and direct you towards some therapy.

 

[philipbh]

SWOT's been doing the rounds for a while. Easy to grasp the S and Ws, looks pretty, often delivers zilch because the Os are beaten to a pulp by the Ts right after they steal their dinner money.

All useless without a Resources and Capabilities Audit

 

[KevinG]

I'm with Trustysteed here.
I've done this stuff many times over with different corporations over the years and my conclusion is that it's mostly bollocks for most people most of the time.
I'm 47, I'm pretty damn good at what I do, I work hard, am almost always enthusiatic, I can travel wherever whenever at short notice and work in difficult circumstances with minimal support. There are not many people in the organisation that can do the same.

I have no desire for promotion or extra responsibility, I enjoy what I do and wish it to remain that way, I think that's in everybodies (mine and the companies) interest. I'm also painfully aware that the things that would help me and my colleagues be more effective (to achieve the companies goals) are not the things I/we are gonna gonna get.
Oh, and by the way, where was the bonus, the pay rise for meeting targets and having the best results ever... nowhere, that's where. Why? Because next year's looking a bit tight on the economy front. Well that'sjust great, we do everything asked for and more and they still have a reason to give us zip.

I do know that the company will find more ways to have me sitting at a computer writing interminable reports, wrestling with goddam awful software systems like 'Salesfarce', various purchasing systems, the next new expense system, the booking a resource system, the online learning and management system, the ordering a paperclip system and the returning to the office after having had a dump form.

Ever wondered why people are so cynical and demotivated by corporate appraisals? Maybe because they're such empty vessels. If they were such a good thing surely we would all be enthused by them.

Yeterday an email with a Fcucking great attachment arrived in my mailbox welcoming me to the start of 2010s appraisal system, it's gonna drain the lifeblood of people over the next 6 months with demotivate drivel... Jesus wept... he really did, he was fcucking unconsolable...

Wow I am so with you on this.

 

[trustysteed]

For what it's worth, Belbin team roles are DANGEROUS.

Ah yes, the Belbin test. Had to take that for a job at a law firm, the one that made me redundant. Just made up any answer, still got the job. Found out from my colleague who sat next to me that the whole IT team had done it and the one particular person was found imminently unsuitable for managment and dealing with people. Guess what position he held? Head of IT.

 

[trustysteed]

Objective : To avoid having to think of meaningless objectives .

Objective : To be able to get on with my job without being constantly interrupted by pointless meetings or appraisals every month

there's my two!

 

[Fab Foodie]

Wow I am so with you on this.

It's a Kevin thing...

 

[MacB]

Alternatively you could be honest and say that you are being ranked in comparison with your peers. You are doing an adequate job, but next to your peers you are not doing well enough.

Over the last six or seven years I can honestly say that we have never had an outcome we didn't want from this approach. We've been allowed on occasion to have no-one in the bottom band, but most of the people who have ended up in the bottom band have left of their own volition. That's an awful lot cheaper than "encouraging" them to leave.

Yeah right, you really do buy in to all this crap