Are we being forced to go electric?
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Alex321
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- South Wales
For wind power alone, that sounds about right. Then when you add in solar and biomass, the overall average is definitely over 40%.
classic33
Leg End Member
They are not the manufacturer of the car you mentioned though.
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I agree with this, with the qualification that better cycling infrastructure could offer many people another option much of the time.
I have not owned a car since December and have had to make changes, but been amazed at how easy it has been for me.
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Do you live urban or countryside, have young non driving family. Married/ single. So many combinations why people can or cannot make the fantastic transition to cycling walking
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Ms AU and I chose, ten years ago, to live on the edge of a market town so that we would have access to everything we need and want within cycling/walking distance. We made that our priority.
We have easy access to:
Mainline train station
Local buses
Green spaces.
Lovely countryside
cafes, cinema, restaurants
Hospital
dentist
Supermarket
Work (for Ms AU)
Airport (by bus)
Many (but not all) people could make a similar choice.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
Don't be daft. You know we are all doomed when Land Rover sort themselves out with electric, even bigger Range Rovers rumbling down the street - they'll all be parked on the pavement outside their little terraced houses !
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
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dont forget the bmw and audi parked on the kerb outside grotty looking council houses .
I am not for one second knocking social housing but it seems odd that someone who can have a brand spanking new male body part extension qualifies for it .
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Most of our neighbours seem to "need" a campervan and two cars plus an old MG to feel OK about themselves despite living in a town.
Chislenko
Veteran
I very rarely use the car nowadays but I think I would find it difficult to transition to a total non car life.
For an example going to watch my football team.
To get there by train means two buses at this end to get to the train station and then a decent walk at the other end to the ground. Obviously the reverse on the way back.
Not withstanding the bus fares the cost of this 60 mile round trip for the train section of the journey alone is £31.00.
Seconded to that I would have to leave my house at circa 9.30 in the morning, to make all the connections and I would probably not get back until 9.30 at night.
Alternatively if I go by car I can leave the house an hour before kick off and be back an hour after the final whistle at a cost of circa £7.00 on diesel.
Whilst I realise going to watch your football team will be classed as "not a normal journey" the time and cost differential do, in my opinion, show that whilst it would not be impossible to live without a car it would at the very least, be difficult / inconvenient.
For an example going to watch my football team.
To get there by train means two buses at this end to get to the train station and then a decent walk at the other end to the ground. Obviously the reverse on the way back.
Not withstanding the bus fares the cost of this 60 mile round trip for the train section of the journey alone is £31.00.
Seconded to that I would have to leave my house at circa 9.30 in the morning, to make all the connections and I would probably not get back until 9.30 at night.
Alternatively if I go by car I can leave the house an hour before kick off and be back an hour after the final whistle at a cost of circa £7.00 on diesel.
Whilst I realise going to watch your football team will be classed as "not a normal journey" the time and cost differential do, in my opinion, show that whilst it would not be impossible to live without a car it would at the very least, be difficult / inconvenient.
cougie uk
Guru
As you say - not impossible to live without the car though.
So you spend on bus and train fare for this trip - but how much does it cost to buy the car and keep it on the road ?
Perhaps in the future we will have better public transport with increased usage.
I don't see how we can continue down this path of unlimited car use with the cost of living sky rocketing.
I'd guess that most of us on here are of a certain age and not having to buy housing at the current rates.
Drago
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Get with the programme. You don't see me telling anyone to stop using their electric car, so why the ridiculous remark?
Read my final paragraph again. I have an electric car.
I've lived in urban towns, cities and small hamlet last for nearly 20 years. We did use bicycles quite alot, the kids cycled to local primary. Now they are nearly all grown up we decided that we wanted a more rural setting so have moved to a farm. Our nearest village is 3-4 miles away. We cycle there regularly. Nearest town 9 miles and do go there sometime via bike, but usually use our EVs to shop there. Nearest city 18 miles away which we normally drive, but don't often visit.
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