As a 22mph average cyclist just commuting with very little effort, I admit..

[Sharky]

Out of interest, what makes you local 10 a "hard" course? Is it hilly?

Generally a hard course is indeed a hilly course. One where you keep having to change gear. Every time you climb, you lose time and never get it fully back on the descents.
Road surfaces also make a difference.

A hard/float morning is usually a factor of weather and wind or lack of it.
Then you have course design which can have a "gift" start or finish - one where there is a descent in one direction only.
And what I call "Honest" courses, where the start and finish are almost opposite each other so hills and wind are average out over the course.

Down here, the "Q" courses are all hard courses and the "E" courses are all fast.

 

[Globalti]

Yes, headwinds and hills.... you never get back what you lost.

What do you mean by Q and E courses? Sorry, I'm not a TT expert.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Yes, headwinds and hills.... you never get back what you lost.

What do you mean by Q and E courses? Sorry, I'm not a TT expert.

All time trial courses are numbered. The letter denotes the district where the course is, E is London East for example.

 

[Sharky]

All

Yes, headwinds and hills.... you never get back what you lost.

What do you mean by Q and E courses? Sorry, I'm not a TT expert.

All tt courses are given a prefix and a number. The prefix represents the district. Q is kent and E is essex.

There should be a list of all courses on the cycling time trials web site.

Cheers keith

Ps all originates from the days when racing on the highway was frowned on and cyclists used special codes to indicate where the course was. You had to wear all black so as you didnt stand out.
A bit before my time, but was in the days my dad rode.

 

[davidphilips]

This is a copy of bit of a sat morning club run (i got dropped, guess why?) the speed of these guys every time they go out is something else and they keep it up for about 60 miles.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rjUk5tD7BQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR28u63v9akp-A9X7k9Tv79aJcM6gaVHSxKJ_-dGFTeXpr3lP_jdpUF4D2s

 

[Milkfloat]

This is a copy of bit of a sat morning club run (i got dropped, guess why?) the speed of these guys every time they go out is something else and they keep it up for about 60 miles.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rjUk5tD7BQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR28u63v9akp-A9X7k9Tv79aJcM6gaVHSxKJ_-dGFTeXpr3lP_jdpUF4D2s

Is that with a real power meter or something calculated by software?

 

[davidphilips]

Is that with a real power meter or something calculated by software?

Far as i know its with a power meter the guy on the bike told me (hes an ex sprinter) his max power can be over 1800 watts?

 

[Milkfloat]

Far as i know its with a power meter the guy on the bike told me (hes an ex sprinter) his max power can be over 1800 watts?

Thanks, the reason I was asking is that the readings looked a little weird and at times too high for what seemed to be fairly flat terrain in a group, maybe there is also some smoothing going on.

 

[CXRAndy]

The stats were slightly out with sync to the video. but you could see the numbers were spot on for a very lively club run.

My local TT course is rolling hills with 390ft of climbing, Our fastest guys cant beat 20mins.
The course record was recently set by some fella called Adam Duggleby with a long 19 mins
Its a rough surface with surface chipping and littered with cracks and small potholes. It does require a bit of attention not to puncture

 

[Smokin Joe]

This is a copy of bit of a sat morning club run (i got dropped, guess why?) the speed of these guys every time they go out is something else and they keep it up for about 60 miles.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rjUk5tD7BQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR28u63v9akp-A9X7k9Tv79aJcM6gaVHSxKJ_-dGFTeXpr3lP_jdpUF4D2s

Nice to see a group who know how to ride together. Unfortunately, it is a rarity these days.

 

[Foghat]

Nice to see a group who know how to ride together. Unfortunately, it is a rarity these days.

Although the rider just in front of the camera bike for the first 1'10" of the clip (and I guess a lot more of the ride besides) had his hands in the centre of the bars......while the group was riding in fairly close formation at 20-25mph on a winding narrowish road (hedges limiting field of view) with plenty of opportunities to encounter potential hazards requiring emergency braking. Hands on the levers or drops in such circumstances, please!

 

[rogerzilla]

The local club run winds up to 29mph on the flat. If you lose the slipstream, you won't see them again that day. It's no fun.

 

[screenman]

The local club run winds up to 29mph on the flat. If you lose the slipstream, you won't see them again that day. It's no fun.

No fun if you lose them, but lots if you finish with them.

 

[CXRAndy]

The local club run winds up to 29mph on the flat. If you lose the slipstream, you won't see them again that day. It's no fun.

The only time ive experience of rapid group speeds was in the Tour of Cambridge, where the first 40 miles I managed to hang onto fast groups to average 24mph, from then on my average dropped away to 21mph for the whole event

 

[HLaB]

Out of interest, what makes you local 10 a "hard" course? Is it hilly?

Yip, its a sporting course rather a drag strip. The finishing hill is particularly time consuming, after a short sharp hill there's a long drag of 2 miles to the finish. Ive been 25mph+ up till then and by the time I get up it the average has dropped to 23mph.