"Audi driver and cyclist clash"

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PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
Why did you indicate to "overtake" a cyclist? You haven't changed direction and are presumably continuing down the same road.

Pointless and confusing to drivers around.

eh?

to overtake a cyclist with enough space you need to move over, no matter waht line the cyclist is on = indicting required

Why tell us the cyclist had no lights on if it appears it was still light?

post was made at 1643. "just got home" london sunset was 1621
 

400bhp

Guru
eh?

to overtake a cyclist with enough space you need to move over, no matter waht line the cyclist is on = indicting required

Nope, no need. As explained to Troll boy above which he couldn't debate in a civilised manner, and chose to be sneery.

It's the last I'm saying on this. Carry on debating this in my absence
 

Monsieur

Senior member
Location
Lincolnshire
Highway code - instructions and guidance when overtaking a cyclist....mirror, signal, Manoeuvre.
Rule 163.
30 years ago or not, the book still applies ^_^
 

Kookas

Über Member
Location
Exeter
I think typical driver aggression varies by the time.. in rush hour, everyone is pissed at traffic, including you (especially if you are going slower than the cars). It makes perfect sense that the possibility of not getting to work on time is annoying (not saying it's rational to assume one cyclist will be able to make you late, but it's a minor nuisance that gets blown up if you're really trying to get something done).

I mean, don't you get annoyed on your bike when there are huge queues of automobiles but no room to filter?

Best way to avoid the situation is to ride nearer the kerb unless you are doing the same speed as the cars (or you are approaching a junction, though everyone slows down at junctions anyway so that's kind of the same thing). This is why I find main roads safer during rush hour than side streets, there are so many cars and so many junctions that no one can do more than 20mph or so.
 
My second car is a peugeot so maybe my car driver profile isn't too bad ^_^

OMG! Don't get me started on bloomin' Peugeot drivers!!! :tongue:

I think it's beneficial to other drivers if the overtaker indicates, especially to the impatient following driver who's probably about to overtake all of us, the tailgating driver who has left themselves little space to react and the texting driver who only occasionally looks up and needs all the help they can get so they don't rear end me.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Well, I think 400bhp has a point, but he did specify if you're not changing your line, and the OP on this sub topic was changing his line, so I think they both have a point.

...still chuckling away at 400bhp's touchiness about his driving ability though. Go humankind!!!
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
[QUOTE 2143380, member: 9609"]The trouble with the so called "advanced drivers" qualification is, it seems to attract the car obsessed speed freaks - I would much rather encounter an old woman driving with cataracts than the endure the cockyness of the 'no it all' advanced driver in his over powered car.[/quote]

Ooooh, that is a close one to call!!! OTOH I suspect 400bhp is probably a good driver though, certainly to what we'd consider a good standard on here.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
[QUOTE 2143380, member: 9609"]The trouble with the so called "advanced drivers" qualification is, it seems to attract the car obsessed speed freaks - I would much rather encounter an old woman driving with cataracts than the endure the cockyness of the 'no it all' advanced driver in his over powered car.[/quote]
I was compelled, along with my 12 colleagues in the same roles, three employers ago, to undertake advanced driver training and pass my IAM car test. I'd done the two wheeled one donkey's years before.

Having passed into the hallowed ranks of the advanced I was relieved to find that my rip snorting road burner of an atmo diesel Escort company car was duly replaced by a slightly less tepid but still scarcely lukewarm automatic Renault Kangoo. Three years of driving around the southern half of the M25 and around the south circular for a living put me off driving for life. Tedious. Even in a high powered private car.
 
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