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Here we go again eh1681261 said:The road, why? It's the people on it who represent the bulk of the danger, apart from the occasional pothole.
Here we go again eh1681261 said:The road, why? It's the people on it who represent the bulk of the danger, apart from the occasional pothole.
Looking directly at drivers is good practice, but Im not looking for what they may be doing aswell. Cam stars can be looking in the wrong direction trying to get footage , which could cause problems. And there are some who look for things, or even force things for more footage, take a look on youtube, plenty dubious incidents there. Any attention given to what is happening inside a vehicle detracts from attention on the road, this is not the safest thing to do.In the video, I would be looking directly at drivers to see if anyone might slow to let me round. Would do the same in the car as well. As for making things unsafe for all, I cannot really see how. And I doubt there are many cyclists going around specifically looking for incidents. Frankly, there are enough drivers out there who can be moronic all by themselves without help from cyclists, video camera vigilantes or no. On occasion I use a camera on my cycle, but I don't really believe it makes much difference to riding styles. I have reported really bad driving to roadsafe before now but wouldn't really make a habit of it. I would do the same in my car.
Just a quick reply before I get off cycling.1681254 said:Routine risk assessment.
Im sure there are some who can take in more info than others, but it still not the best thing to do in my opinion.1681282 said:Maybe some people are capable of seeing more than other people.
But I think you would agree, you need to look ahead too.1681288 said:Nonsense, the car driver a few hundred yards away is not about to left hook you now is he?
I've never heard so much nonsense. If you are looking directly at a driver (and where else would you be looking if you are waiting to turn across an approaching vehicle) then you cannot help but see if the driver is using a hand-held phone.Looking directly at drivers is good practice, but Im not looking for what they may be doing aswell. Cam stars can be looking in the wrong direction trying to get footage , which could cause problems. And there are some who look for things, or even force things for more footage, take a look on youtube, plenty dubious incidents there. Any attention given to what is happening inside a vehicle detracts from attention on the road, this is not the safest thing to )do.
Whilst yes you need to read ahead of you a few hundred yards. You still need to read things that are only a few yards ahead of you, as situations change consistently on roads and whilst the side road was clear when you where 150 yards away from it, now when you are 30 yards away there is a car trying to pull out.Just a quick reply before I get off cycling.
If you can see the driver then it is too late for risk assessment assumiing that you are travelling at a reasonable speed. You risk assessment should be based on what is happening a few hundred yards ahead of you and not what is in fromt of your nose - then it is far too late for risk assessment unless your reactions are faster than a speeding bullet
I've never heard so much nonsense. If you are looking directly at a driver (and where else would you be looking if you are waiting to turn across an approaching vehicle) then you cannot help but see if the driver is using a hand-held phone.
I agree
This constant going on about cyclists trying to engineer 'situations' is just nonsensical. Most of the cammers on here are experienced cyclists with good technique for cycling in traffic. To suggest that they deliberately put themselves in danger defies logic - but logic is not a strong point with some of the motoring apologists on this site.
WOIW!!! Your own youtube channel and blog but have you thought of a name for it yet?
How about PINCHPOINTS?
Petty Incompetent Numpty Cyclons wHose Pointless Opinions Intend Naming Then Shaming
Ok- guys n gals - what editing program out there will allow me to slow mo and zoom in onto the drivers in question ?
thanks
Well what do you you call "If you want to have a laugh go look at mrhippo's channel on YouTube, and listen to some of his narration." if not a personal attack?mrhippo, I never even noticed your stuttering, and wasn't referring to that. I was critiquing your videos in exactly the way you do to others, only less nastily and in less of a bullying fashion. If you were a little kinder to others on here, then perhaps many posters would be more willing to treat you the same way in return?
Well what do you you call "If you want to have a laugh go look at mrhippo's channel on YouTube, and listen to some of his narration." if not a personal attack?
This is not the first time you have attacked someone's speaking ability is it? Remember https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/holding-cars-up.89878/post-1611487 and your comment "Oh, and this guy must be the winner for the worst voice ever in camera cyclists"
You do not like my videos, how about giving me some constructive criticism?