So not really "nowhere" then, but somewhere obvious and visible?
Children and adults with no bike lights
- Thread starter Accy cyclist
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OP
OP
Accy cyclist
Legendary Member
- Location
- The hills of Accrington
Mmm! This takes me back to when i made my first few posts. If i remember correctly, i argue that unlit cyclists are a menace and you and Aidy argue that those who fail to see them are more of a menace!
Yup. On account of the menace being the one wielding the lethal power, not the fairly harmless one happening to incur the displeasure of the self-righteous.
OP
OP
Accy cyclist
Legendary Member
- Location
- The hills of Accrington
What about the law abiding cyclist who collides with the unlit one? Is that their fault as well?
subaqua
What’s the point
- Location
- Leytonstone
TWOCing a TARDIS
biggs682
Touch it up and ride it
- Location
- Northamptonshire
adults ought to know better and show by example
Sara_H
Guru
Think of the thousands if unlit ones you didn't see while the lit up one was hogging your attention.
EDIT: misread the post. DOH!
swansonj
Guru
I was waiting for this thread to appear before posting this:
Returning through Heathrow Immigration last week, I saw this notice over one of the gates:
"In the interests of safety, staff are requested to remove their hi viz before passing through this gate".
I would have photographed it only I suspect you get shot (or invited to partake of a full body search) if you take a camera out there.
Returning through Heathrow Immigration last week, I saw this notice over one of the gates:
"In the interests of safety, staff are requested to remove their hi viz before passing through this gate".
I would have photographed it only I suspect you get shot (or invited to partake of a full body search) if you take a camera out there.
John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
- Location
- Crewe
When I was taught to drive, some 20 years ago, the guidance was that at night, or during other periods of reduced visibility, it was the driver's responsibility to slow down, and be particularly observant. Living in a fairly rural area now, it's good advice - there aren't always pavements, and livestock doesn't always stay in its fields, before we even consider people who should have their lights on but don't.
So yes, in short.
JU
Just to be pedantic....
Dr Who did in fact steal the TARDIS, I wonder whether (with clever use of a sonic screwdriver and a tear in the time-space continuum) if he puts it back at the same time as he originally stole it that an offence has been committed?
Just to be pedantic....
Dr Who did in fact steal the TARDIS, I wonder whether (with clever use of a sonic screwdriver and a tear in the time-space continuum) if he puts it back at the same time as he originally stole it that an offence has been committed?
Depends whether or not they are proper cyclists. Did they wave?
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
I'll join you.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
the unlit what? a tree maybe? if so, yes.
more seriously though... those who argue that it's up to other road users to pay extra special attention looking out for unlit 'whatever' at night... do they or don't they use a working set of lights at night?
Whilst i maintain that unlit cyclists are not invisible and don't usually appear from nowhere, especially if the other road user has a stonking set of car headlights illuminating the road... i wouldn't dream of going out at night without my bike lights on. I do have some responsibility for my own safety and whilst the onus is on other road users not to hit me, i can't assume that all other road users are completely attentive all of the time. In fact it's wise to assume that all other road users are anything but attentive.
In a few months time my morning commute will be dark... very dark. And flying in the face of all my stylistic leanings, I may well be donning a hi-vis vest in addition to my two back lights,
Stay safe, be seen is a good message for vulnerable road users... but the problem is when drivers walk away from a collision, free from prosecution due to the infallible excuse of SMIDSY and therefore reinforce the opinion that they don't need to pay that much attention.
Instead of 'stay safe, be seen', a better message would be 'drive safe and look out of your fecking windscreen you muppet!'
jhawk
Veteran
- Location
- New Brunswick, Canada
Not necessarily another 'no lights' post, bht in the last few days, I have had to go around people riding on my side of the road when they are supposed to be on the opposite side!
Usually ends with me first spotting that they're riding towards me, then motioning for them to get on the other side of the road. They don't move, I usually say something like, "Other side of the road, ya f*cking idiot!" As I swerve to avoid said idiot.
Usually ends with me first spotting that they're riding towards me, then motioning for them to get on the other side of the road. They don't move, I usually say something like, "Other side of the road, ya f*cking idiot!" As I swerve to avoid said idiot.
