smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
Yeah, the sloping arm being mistaken for a right-turn isn't as serious when riding solo because at least it still deters most people from trying to overtake just then!
Agreed. Or at least you would hope it deters them...
Yeah, the sloping arm being mistaken for a right-turn isn't as serious when riding solo because at least it still deters most people from trying to overtake just then!
FFSI wasn't trying to pick a fight either (although I might if you tried to undertake me on my left)
I just meant riders who like to use the "proper" cycling terms rather than informal ones. I don't really mind what terms they use, but its interesting that you can normally predict who is coming from their warning. "On your right"=Club train, "Hello"=A couple of informal riders. <silence> .... WHOOSH = Dulwich Paragon. (corrected)
I did put most... still have to shoulder-check because it's spring so the daffodils are out.Agreed. Or at least you would hope it deters them...
FFS.FFS
Its people like you that are the problem and have the problem.
You arwe complaining because you don't like the warning you are given
I am indeed complaining, in the strongest possible terms. I am so vexed that I have been driven to using language like "I don't really mind what terms they use" and "its interesting" I'm sorry if my intemperate language upsets people, but I'm really that angry.FFS
Its people like you that are the problem and have the problem.
You arwe complaining because you don't like the warning you are given
you would no doubt bleat if you did not get a warning.
What next, the passing cyclist is using too high a cadence.
You got a warning that's what you want
You are ranting about something that doesn't exist. Don't let me stop you, but it does make you look something of a fool.Ever thought the reason why passing cyclists say nothing is because of moaning cyclists who complain about the warning or greeting given. Its not for you to dictate the words used, the tone of the warning. It is a matter of courtesy to give a warning. It is not your right to demand the words tone etc used.
You have heard the warning, so it has achieved its purpose
You forgot to mention your Di2.I shout, "Coming through on the right. Please take note of my carbon fibre and Di2."
If you did that to me you better believe that I would tug my forelock!I shout, "Coming through on the right. Please take note of my carbon fibre and Di2."
I cycle for exercise and enjoyment of the countryside.
I'm 65, not super fit, and only average about 8 mph and try to manage 100 miles a month.
I'm fortunate to live in County Durham, and for the last 25 years I've made extensive use of our excellent network of old-railway paths.
This year I seem to having more and more problems with other cyclists coming up from behind and overtaking without warning. The first time
I see them is when my peripheral vision startles me. This is quite likely to make me jump or swerve. In any case the path surfaces are not always regular (although
the County Council generally keeps them in good repair !) and sometimes there are deposits that one would rather not ride through.
This problem has been getting worse for the last couple of months. I had a near collision last Thursday for this reason, and when I remonstrated (politely) with the other cyclist and asked him to give warning when overtaking, I was told to 'keep my
line' and 'learn to ride a bike'. !
It is now at the point when I'm almost afraid to go out on the paths, especially at times like early evening when there are more likely to be more 'fast riders' about!
I myself am always polite to other path users, and give plenty of warning when coming up from behind.
Please can anybody suggest any way in which I can stay safe and enjoy my bike rides?
Narrow bars isn't really an excuse. You can attach a bell to your stem - there are some which replace a 10mm headset spacer if you're threadless - bar end, top tube even. You find space for a light because that benefits you, but crown-mounted and fork-mounted lights are possible so it could be relocated to enable fitting a bell.I don't ring a bell because I don't have one (narrow drop bars with just enough room for a light and a small garmin).
But not wanting to fit a bell is an excuse. It's the one I use. As an "audible warning of approach" I say "hello", or on occasion, "ding dong" inna Leslie Phillips stylee.Narrow bars isn't really an excuse. You can attach a bell to your stem - there are some which replace a 10mm headset spacer if you're threadless - bar end, top tube even. You find space for a light because that benefits you, but crown-mounted and fork-mounted lights are possible so it could be relocated to enable fitting a bell.
And yet, in all my years riding, I've never heard anyone actually manage to achieve that instead of bawling some horrible squawk which maybe was meant to be "hello" before they raised their voice to be heard over the din of the motorists at the third attempt.But not wanting to fit a bell is an excuse. It's the one I use. As an "audible warning of approach" I say "hello", or on occasion, "ding dong" inna Leslie Phillips stylee.