Cycling Mikey and third party reporting

[Arjimlad]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...rs-mike-van-erp-motorists-britain-roads-safer

I thought this was a good article, well it's by Peter Walker who is very pro-cycling. Mike explains his reasons & motivation very clearly. See it, report it. Simple.

 

[fossyant]

He's wearing jeans on a bike, oh he must be 'ard'.

 

[Boopop]

I like what he does with footage but he called me delicate on twitter for calling his friend out for telling @tricyclemayor to "f##k off". Shortly after that he blocked me, which I found rather ironic given he'd said I was delicate.

@tricyclemayor's an expert in the field, and I don't think we should be telling fellow cycling advocates to "f##k off", no matter how unpalatable their views may be. Harry's got mobility issues and she was accusing someone else of being ableist. I didn't necessarily agree with her but she has a different lived experience to me so I would hope that even if we disagreed with each other we could treat one another with respect.

Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit, it's just at this point I see CyclingMikey and think "well perhaps he's not perfect". Admittedly no-one is mind. I wouldn't tell him to f##k off

 

[Arjimlad]

I like what he does with footage but he called me delicate on twitter for calling his friend out for telling @tricyclemayor to "f##k off". Shortly after that he blocked me, which I found rather ironic given he'd said I was delicate.

@tricyclemayor's an expert in the field, and I don't think we should be telling fellow cycling advocates to "f##k off", no matter how unpalatable their views may be. Harry's got mobility issues and she was accusing someone else of being ableist. I didn't necessarily agree with her but she has a different lived experience to me so I would hope that even if we disagreed with each other we could treat one another with respect.

Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit, it's just at this point I see CyclingMikey and think "well perhaps he's not perfect". Admittedly no-one is mind. I wouldn't tell him to f##k off

That's not great. @tricyclemayor is a great Twitter account

 

[Boopop]

That's not great. @tricyclemayor is a great Twitter account

I know right! She's lovely and I love reading her insights.

 

[Cycleops]

Watch his videos on YouTube, very entertaining besides anything else. I believe he used to be on here.

 

[ianrauk]

Watch his videos on YouTube, very entertaining besides anything else. I believe he used to be on here.

He did. Left the forum a couple of years before you joined.
Good chap is our Mike.

 

[Slick]

Yeah, nice to get a genuinely positive response for a change.

 

[Drago]

I don't habe problem with him filming and grassing. They all deserve it, so the more the merrier.

I don't agree with his need to verbally confront the wrong doers. It gains him nothing, so why bother? He's already touched upon his feeling of powerlessness, and this behaviour smacks of a psychological weakness, a need and desire to dominate, to be on top. It's an unattractive trait and to a moderate degree detracts from his good work by turning away those who might otherwise heartily agree with the excellent camera work and diligent grassing.

Imagine how sheety a place the world would be if everyone who felt powerless spoke so condescendingly to everyone they met.

 

[Slick]

I don't habe problem with him filming and grassing. They all deserve it, so the more the merrier.

I don't agree with his need to verbally confront the wrong doers. It gains him nothing, so why bother? He's already touched upon his feeling of powerlessness, and this behaviour smacks of a psychological weakness, a need and desire to dominate, to be on top. It's an unattractive trait and to a moderate degree detracts from his good work by turning away those who might otherwise heartily agree with the excellent camera work and diligent grassing.

Imagine how sheety a place the world would be if everyone who felt powerless spoke so condescendingly to everyone they met.

I'm no expert but from what I've seen its him reacting to total nobbers who just can't accept that they do not have the divine right to flout the laws of the land and put people in danger as they simply must answer that phone or get to that next set of lights 10 seconds earlier than they would have if they just had a modicum of patience. I really don't see it as condescending but I've seen a few who fet irate because he obviously isn't afraid of their idle threats.

 

[figbat]

Not sure of his motivation for confrontation rather than simply gathering evidence candidly and submitting for review. Perhaps it is more to do with a desire to not only catch but also educate, given his personal experience. However as is proven, the type of person getting caught is often not the type of person to be apologetic or submissive, thus leading to watchable video content.

 

[Alex321]

I don't habe problem with him filming and grassing. They all deserve it, so the more the merrier.

I don't agree with his need to verbally confront the wrong doers. It gains him nothing, so why bother? He's already touched upon his feeling of powerlessness, and this behaviour smacks of a psychological weakness, a need and desire to dominate, to be on top. It's an unattractive trait and to a moderate degree detracts from his good work by turning away those who might otherwise heartily agree with the excellent camera work and diligent grassing.

Imagine how sheety a place the world would be if everyone who felt powerless spoke so condescendingly to everyone they met.

Not only that, but despite him claiming not be a vigilante, that is exactly what him blocking and confronting those drivers is.

As I've said before, I absolutely think him videoing and reporting is a very good thing. But I don't agree with his direct action.

 

[Cycleops]

I think it’s worth reprising his videos. This is one of his very best when the entitled merc driver gets instant karma. Enjoy.

View: https://youtu.be/aA4Nw4sDT4U

 

[the snail]

Not only that, but despite him claiming not be a vigilante, that is exactly what him blocking and confronting those drivers is.

As I've said before, I absolutely think him videoing and reporting is a very good thing. But I don't agree with his direct action.

He's not a vigilante. A vigilante sets themselves up as policeman, judge and executioner. He's not punishing anybody, or attacking them. He just confronts bad drivers and stands his ground, in a remarkably calm if slightly passive-agressive way. The likes of the mercedes driver are self-entitled bullies, who think the law doesn't apply to them, who behave like they do because they think their behaviour won't be challenged. If he were in Germany, where people expect others to obey the law, his behaviour would be the norm. If it was a mugger he confronted, no-one would think he was a vigilante. Personally, I'd give him an OBE.

 

[fossyant]

Imagine how sheety a place the world would be if everyone who felt powerless spoke so condescendingly to everyone they met.

That perfectly describes 99.0% of cycling helmet camera wearers, unfortunately.