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Cyclists v POBs

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by Will1985, 15 Jan 2008.

  1. Will1985

    Will1985 Über Member

    Location:
    South Norfolk
    What is the difference between cyclists and POBs? Reading the article on the GMTV thread, it makes no distinction aside from calling RLJers "rogue cyclists".

    Obviously on here we would all classify ourselves as cyclists because that is what we enjoy, and identify Pedestrians On Bikes by their misdemeanours or possibly even equipment. However, the support of RLJing by many blurs the boundaries between a POB and a cyclist to the extent that anybody riding two wheels is labelled as a miscreant. Naturally, I resent this categorisation as someone who rarely rides in built up areas and adheres to the rules of the road (as a car should) when I am.

    Sitting here, I am even struggling to define my own list for what a POB is, as so many things can be marked against "cyclists" as well:
    Perhaps RLJing, no helmet, no lights, dark clothing, pavement riding, poor use of gears, flat pedals, unserviced bikes, and cycling slowly and erratically.

    There is a thread on BR where someone says we just use it as a derogatory term for anyone who we consider inferior? I would like to think that people on bikes should stick together when being classed as traffic, but then I don't want the negative connotations stuck against me (and a registration plate).
     
  2. BentMikey

    BentMikey Rider of Seolferwulf

    Location:
    South London
    Anyone riding a bike is a cyclist. I don't like POB because it's snobbery, pure and simple. There are just good cyclists and irresponsible ones, and everything in between.
     
  3. Chris James

    Chris James Über Member

    Location:
    Huddersfield
    Oh dear. I would have thought a poorly fitted helmet at jaunty angle is as good as indicator.

    Anyway, I agree with bentMikey. We are all cyclists. There are plenty fo people on expesnive road bikes in all the gear who RLJ and who cycle slowly and erratically.
     
  4. Crock of Gold

    Crock of Gold Guest

    Location:
    London
    I cycle 600 miles a month to commute to work across London; I wear cheap nerdy gear; I have a three year old, 2nd hand bike; I average about 12 miles an hour.

    However, I stop at reds etc; am a member of CTC.

    Just because I don't look "flash" and "fast" does not mean that I'm not a cyclist.
     
  5. col

    col Veteran

    I think you can call those teenage ,or they tend to be,chav types,with baseball cap ,fag in mouth,seat as low as it will go,biking around the local town centre,and paths,skidding and wheelying,in gangs,pobs.Because thats probably what they are,just pedestrians using bikes to knock about with,they dont do anything safely,normally weaving in and out of people or vehicles,cracking a few cans with their mates,on the phone while cycling,its just a quicker way of getting about for them,instead of walking.
     
  6. Pete

    Pete Guest

    Ditto (well some of that: don't cycle 600 a month, lucky if I manage half that). Don't wear any sort of cycle kit for the commute. Don't wear helmet. Flat pedals (well if you mean by that rat-traps with toeclips, because that's what I use). So where do I fit in?

    'Snobbery'? Maybe BM is right. I use the abbreviation POB (which I only learnt of - incidentally, like so many other expressions - from these forums) when I want to refer to a cyclist of whose conduct I disapprove. It's a sort of coded message you see. Simple as that.
     
  7. Dave5N

    Dave5N Über Member

    Were you never young?

    If you cycle, you're a cyclist.
     
  8. Dave5N

    Dave5N Über Member

    Yep. Is for me too.
     
  9. col

    col Veteran


    Its on here i learned the POB abreviation,but in the minority it seems to be an apt description,snobbery?No,descriptive yes.
     
  10. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It!

    Location:
    South Manchester
    Oh...I'm a posh snob then........ all the gear....or a poseur !

    The term of POB, I use it for someone who has no clue about how to ride safely and with respect for other road and pavement users.

    Doesn't matter if someone doesn't have all the 'gear' - so long as they know how to ride properly.
     
  11. col

    col Veteran


    True,but its descriptive,thats all.
     
  12. col

    col Veteran


    Whats if i was young got to do with it? I gave a description of pobs,as was asked?
     
  13. Crock of Gold

    Crock of Gold Guest

    Location:
    London
    Fair point.

    Especially the "respect" bit. But then I've seen plenty of "cyclists" who know what they are doing on a decent bike jumping reds etc...

    ...POB is probably to crude a term to have any real meaning.
     
  14. col

    col Veteran


    For me too.your point?
     
  15. palinurus

    palinurus Guru

    Location:
    Watford
    I'm pretty POB I reckon.

    No helmet: Uh huh.
    Dark clothing: sometimes
    Flat pedals: sometimes
    Unserviced bikes: I don't care much for the shopping bike.
    Cycling slowly and erratically: I'm tired out come friday ferchrissakes