Dark cycle users.
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Slick
Guru
It happens. Last one by me lost it's drag when the king pin snapped.
A bit of a potential legal conundrum t’other night.
I was driving through Bedford, at about 23:45, and aspied a hoody wearing cyclist with no lights on. Heading towards him/her was a female cyclist, with a decent front light, on the wrong side of the road.
As cyclists are never wrong, who is at fault in this scenario if they had had a head on crash?
I was driving through Bedford, at about 23:45, and aspied a hoody wearing cyclist with no lights on. Heading towards him/her was a female cyclist, with a decent front light, on the wrong side of the road.
As cyclists are never wrong, who is at fault in this scenario if they had had a head on crash?
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Slick
Guru
We're allocated sides of the road for a reason.A bit of a potential legal conundrum t’other night.
I was driving through Bedford, at about 23:45, and aspired a hoody wearing cyclist with no lights on. Heading towards him/her was a female cyclist, with a decent front light, on the wrong side of the road.
As cyclists are never wrong, who is at fault in this scenario if they had had a head on crash?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
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God, obvs.
More seriously, I'd say the wrong-way rider 80%/the ninja 20%. The wrong-way was doing the dafter movement and had a headlight that could have illuminated the ninja.
jefmcg
Guru
I wish we had the ARA rules of rowing applied on the roads. While there are quite stringent rules about where you should be and giving way and looking out, but if there is a collision, it is everyone involved's fault.
They take safety seriously, and make it everyone's responsibility because they know if something goes wrong it can quickly end in tragedy, unlike on the roads where .... yeah ..... I don't know what the difference is.
jefmcg
Guru
[QUOTE 5185389, member: 9609"]why should they ? is it not up to you to see them ?[/QUOTE]
We have been talking about cyclists who we can see. This post is about cars that literally can't be seen. Do you not <ahem> see the difference?
We have been talking about cyclists who we can see. This post is about cars that literally can't be seen. Do you not <ahem> see the difference?
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winjim
Smash the cistern
But every part of the truck and its shed load was lit by a fog light, right?
Stop me if you can see where I'm going with this one...
Important bit was contained within the second paragraph of my post.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
That's true, but the highway code is often incomplete and sometimes wrong. Like I think the only rule explicitly telling you to avoid a collision is the one on amber lights but people who cause collisions are still condemned.
Keeping left should be a MUST, as it's required by the Highways Act 1835 s78, which is one of only two sections still in force. By comparison, the current bike lights have only been required for about 80 years IIRC.
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Drago
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Carriage, as you are carried in or on it.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Wot @Drago said. That's why laws from before the bicycle's invention apply and it wasn't illegal at first like segways or hover boards.
