Tin Pot
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There is a correlation, if not causation, between stupid people and bad dogs.
Dogs on public land
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There is a correlation, if not causation, between stupid people and bad dogs.
Mad Doug Biker
Just a damaged guy.
- Location
- Craggy Island
Yebbut people are just sh*t anyway. If I knew I wouldn't die of radiation or similar, and I'd be happy forevermore, then I'd be on the first ship to Mars!!
vernon
Harder than Ronnie Pickering
- Location
- Meanwood, Leeds
If I knew I wouldn't die of radiation or similar, and I'd be happy forevermore, then I'd be on the first ship to Mars!!
You missed out, 'and make the World a better place.'
Mad Doug Biker
Just a damaged guy.
- Location
- Craggy Island
You missed out, 'and make the World a better place.'
Nothing will make this sh*tty planet a better place
In terms of humanity anyway.
Not sure @vernon is wrong. I suspect the majority don't always pick up their dogs shite. Personally I pick it up wherever I am. Be it in the middle of plowed/stubble field in woods where I have never met anyone. I will pick up other peoples litter but I draw the line at other peoples dog shite. With the amount of litter thrown out of cars (what possible excuse is there for that?) I think it highly likely that the majority fail on occasions to pick it up. And obviously in some case never pick it up.
If caught ? times banned from having a dog.
If caught ? many times throwing litter out of car banned from driving. In both cases it really isn't that hard not to be an inconsiderate scum bag.
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Profpointy
Legendary Member
As always restrictions will only apply to responsible owners. "bad" owners will ignore the restrictions anyway, so the only people banned will be thise whose dogs cause little problem.
I don't even own a dog, never have, but am against banning perfectly reasonable things (if done responsibly) just because someone else disaproves - dictatorship of the majority if you like. It would be quite easy to see a certain other minority pursuit seen as needing restrictions, training, insurance, (effin') road tax or outright banning as it can incovenience others occasionally if done irresponsibly
I don't even own a dog, never have, but am against banning perfectly reasonable things (if done responsibly) just because someone else disaproves - dictatorship of the majority if you like. It would be quite easy to see a certain other minority pursuit seen as needing restrictions, training, insurance, (effin') road tax or outright banning as it can incovenience others occasionally if done irresponsibly
John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
- Location
- Crewe
I think at least part of the problem is that the people who are "bad" owners have the same sort of feelings of entitlement, and exercise similar self exculpatory reasoning that bad drivers do, with a similar degree of societal connivance. Dog owners are no more persecuted than motorists.
(Hence my (evidently poor) jocular suggestion of the Association of British Dogs to stand up for them).
(Hence my (evidently poor) jocular suggestion of the Association of British Dogs to stand up for them).
NorthernDave
Never used Über Member
- Location
- The real Northern Powerhouse
I'm a responsible dog owner. He's micro-chipped, he's insured, we always pick up after him. He's kept on a lead when he should be and is always under control.
I have no problem with dogs being on a lead in places where it's appropriate or with dogs being banned from specific areas of parks etc, although I would comment that dogs need to run to exercise, some breeds needing anything up to two hours a day good exercise and I'm not sure how they'll get that on a lead...
However, there is one big park not a million miles from here where we simply don't take him any more as there are too many nobber dog owners who have no idea about what their responsibilities as an owner are. They are a minority but ruin it for the rest of us.
The council moan that they can't do anything about dog fouling, or dogs running amok, due to budget cuts but I don't believe a word of it. The fine here for not clearing up after your dog is £75. I'm not sure how much the council pay dog wardens but I'm fairly sure that issuing two fines would cover a days wages and any other operational costs and anything above that would place the council in profit. They could make that within 10 minutes of arriving at any number of locations across the city.
So instead we get the usual knee-jerk reaction which is imposing yet more legislation that by their own admission they won't enforce. Very Kafkaesque, i'm sure.
I have no problem with dogs being on a lead in places where it's appropriate or with dogs being banned from specific areas of parks etc, although I would comment that dogs need to run to exercise, some breeds needing anything up to two hours a day good exercise and I'm not sure how they'll get that on a lead...
However, there is one big park not a million miles from here where we simply don't take him any more as there are too many nobber dog owners who have no idea about what their responsibilities as an owner are. They are a minority but ruin it for the rest of us.
The council moan that they can't do anything about dog fouling, or dogs running amok, due to budget cuts but I don't believe a word of it. The fine here for not clearing up after your dog is £75. I'm not sure how much the council pay dog wardens but I'm fairly sure that issuing two fines would cover a days wages and any other operational costs and anything above that would place the council in profit. They could make that within 10 minutes of arriving at any number of locations across the city.
So instead we get the usual knee-jerk reaction which is imposing yet more legislation that by their own admission they won't enforce. Very Kafkaesque, i'm sure.
Seriously? My 4 month old Springer thinks 3 hours is no where near enough and she is rarely on the lead.
What? Don't take the dog out unless you have a packet of bags with you. Your excuse appears to be the state should supply bags. Your next excuse will be they should supply change machines because owners might not have the right change on them.
Wafer
Veteran
- Location
- Somerset/Devon border
So as Tin Pot rightly guessed, they are talking about specific types of areas. Lets read a headline, jump to conclusions and moan about the council even though it's something completely different eh?
If you click through to the consultation the first set of questions are
As a dog owner I'd probably support most of those.
If you click through to the consultation the first set of questions are
As a dog owner I'd probably support most of those.
It's your dogs shite put it in your bin. I carry mine home, up to 4 bags each time (a pup aka shi*ing machine). Why does everyone want their arses wiped!!
Profpointy
Legendary Member
So as Tin Pot rightly guessed, they are talking about specific types of areas. Lets read a headline, jump to conclusions and moan about the council even though it's something completely different eh?
If you click through to the consultation the first set of questions are
As a dog owner I'd probably support most of those.
all would be fair enough, providing imposed honestly - eg designated an entire park as "children's play area" or similar
