Don't always blame the motorist.

[Crackle]

I've lost track. Who's to blame. Can we pick someone?

 

[Inertia]

I'm really sorry, but somebody has to point out some home truths. There are roads where it is entirely safe to overtake cyclists when traffic is coming in the other direction. The lane with the cyclists can be wide enough for the motorist to do that, but not if they ride two or three abreast. It takes a few seconds for the car to be on it's way. It costs the cyclist so little. Why block them?
It's bad manners, antagonises motorists, and makes our lives a bit less pleasant. What exactly is the point?

If i can state the obvious, if an apparenly knowledgable driver was uncomfortable passing cyclists two abreast because the road was so windy and narrow then they may have been uncomfortable with him passing them at one abreast. I try not to guess the plans of the motorist behind me and cycle with my own safety in mind and not the drivers timetable.

 

[Inertia]

I wonder about that illustration. It looks like a continuous white line at the bottom of the picture, meaning the driver has crossed to the other side of the carriageway illegally, and indicating that the driver has failed to complete an overtake in a safe and legal place.
Anyhow, if you can overtake a tractor you can overtake two bikes - when there's a safe place and a sufficient gap allowed by the surfeit of oncoming traffic. And the surfeit is F all to do with the cyclists.

I dont think it is a continuous white line, there is a break under his wheels and the red bar with writing covers where another break would be.

 

[Tin Pot]

I've lost track. Who's to blame. Can we pick someone?

The Green Party.

Alistair Campbell.

Hitler.

 

[bonsaibilly]

OK enough. Let's just remind ourselves about the highway code
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Um yes but it also says this:

• never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

bb

 

[400bhp]

Yes, I was delayed by less than a minute and when I still had 100 miles to go, what can I say?

Genuine question for you here. What do you perceive to be more inconvenient for you;
A. Sat behind cyclists 2 abreast for one minute; or
B. Sat behind a car doing 50mph in a NSL (60 mph) for 6 minutes
?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Motorist and motorbike rider both wrong shocker

Two motors don't make a right. Whodathunkit?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

The two cyclists should have used common sense and ride single file to let me pass more safely as I always try to give them plenty of space when overtaking. As I said in my original thread, even one of the motorbikes signalled them to ride single file.

The singled out cyclist(s) could also apply "common sense" and stay off the roads entirely thus allowing Mr Toad to use the roads as he thinks they were intended.

 

[ufkacbln]

The singled out cyclist(s) could also apply "common sense" and stay off the roads entirely thus allowing Mr Toad to use the roads as he thinks they were intended.

They could also have used the "common sense" that where a road has short straight lengths, that overtaking cyclist in single line takes longer, requires mores distance and is less likely to be possible. It means that you, the overtaking driver are on the other carriageway for the least possible time if they stay 2 abreast

By riding side by side they actually increase your chances of a safe overtake

 

[Phil Fouracre]

Well I never did! Ten pages! Who'd have thunk it :-)

 

[Bianchi boy]

Well I never did! Ten pages! Who'd have thunk it :-)

And we"ve not finished yet

 

[screenman]

Well I never did! Ten pages! Who'd have thunk it :-)

Me.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Could have ended at the OP had it contained more reasonable and reasoned judgements. Or simply had expressed frustration at two cyclists causing an impatient driver a trivial inconvenience without the hyperbole of claiming their behaviour was dangerous.

 

[Hip Priest]

Gavroche attention-seeking again.

 

[bladesman73]

i love this forum, the resident offence takers are hilarious! Does CC keep them in a cage, feeding them bread, water and a sprinkling of otherness?