Discussion in 'Electric Bikes' started by jowwy, 12 Jun 2019.
You'll have seen the Big Easy...
It is big but it doesn't look easy to me
Riese and Muller are active in the ecargobike market.
They make a long tail one like the Surly, and Dutch style cargo bikes with a forward mounted luggage tray/child seat.
I was in Antwerp a few months ago and the streets seemed to be full of gigantic cargo ebikes.
Ok I saw three. Or maybe two. But they were really big ones.
Seriously impressive geometry. It handles like a dream and feels hardly any different to a MTB. Obviously it can’t turn on a dime but at 2 metres long it is staggeringly dexterous. How far are you from Somerset? Welcome to give a go.
I still prefer my very simple Bakfiets though: one reason it still works so well after a decade of use is that it's a simple as possible with no suspension or hydraulics, and no motor to break down or battery to suddenly stop holding a charge.
It's pretty heavy though, so I don't manage to overtake anyone...
I second that, although mine is a rebuild of an old Raleigh. I keep getting asked if it's an E-bike these days too...
We have an old rider 80yr+ in our village. He was out several times a week doing upto 70-80milers. A few years ago he suffered a stroke. Struggling with fitness and pace he has just got an Orbea ebike- very nice. He's backup to 65 milers now at a decent 15 mph
Here in NL there are many variations of cargobikes/bakfietsen, some electric, many not. Depending on my shift pattern, I'll regularly draw up behind a woman with 3 kids in her bakfiets, winter & summer. It's electric but I'll catch up with her and there's not a lot of space to overtake. No problem for me - I think it's great to see that.
DHL have just added a very substantial E-bike to their local courier fleet. Pretty impressive.
On the other hand, the sheer number of (silent) food couriers flying around the city centre is a real nuisance, partly because the bikes are ridden by kids who are in a hurry, partly because they are moving faster than just about any other bike in the centre. Their only redeeming feature are the (very) bright lights they are kitted out with.
Last year I hosted a German chap through Warmshowers and he was telling me about how in his city they (a kind of bike co-op) have bought 2 different types of cargo bike that are available to hire out for what I thought was a very good price. If I remember correctly, the larger of the 2 was electric. I thought it was a fabulous idea.
I've met a couple who stopped touring when their kids were small, but were busy planning a long tour again with the kids able to match the adult distances by using e-bikes. Again, a great idea.
And I'll never forget an older German couple I met on Lake Konstanz in freezing drizzle (the day after temps in the mid 20s). They had rented Ebikes and had been looking forward to their little tour for 6 months. They never would have attempted it without the comfort of an E-motor. They were totally ill-equipped for the weather but the sheer joy they transmitted was a real pleasure to witness. I'd hate to deny anyone that joy.
There are a lot of uses for Ebikes, some more civic friendly than others. I think there's a real danger that if the unfriendly aspects are not controlled the only option will be very stringent controls.
The magic 15, there really must be something special about it, my average is 10mph fir which I am very happy
Just seen this , I looked it up after seeing a post on this thread earlier ,
I like Surly bikes , I like this , but they are $5000 in USA
But ideal for me for work ,
One problem with it. With all that frame space, you'd think they could find somewhere better to put the battery. Otherwise yeah, it's nails.
That is a big positive in any ones book , I doff my Cap !
That's great , but sorry to be pedantic, shouldn't that be 'up to a decent 15mph'
I'm not entirely sure anyone really disagrees with any of that. I've posted a few times now that I think they are amazing and will have no hesitation in getting one when the time is right.
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