Froome and Wiggins TUEs
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DRM
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Wiggo announced his retirement today, the media can now congratulate themselves on having built up a British sporting hero, so that they can destroy him, it'll probably be Andy Murray in the next couple of years, newspapers are so shoot these days that they aren't fit to wrap fish & chips in.
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SWSteve
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I don't think being a late boomer is the cause of this win
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Not to people with an interest in bike racing, but they did with the general public, who show a passing interest in the T de F once a year, the olympics every four years etc, as with many a celebrity they then love to knock them down again, personally I too think that Sky, Sir Dave et al have made a bad situation worse with the cack handed way the whole thing has been handled, it doesn't help either when they say no one ever involved in doping will be employed by Sky, then they employ people who have doped, or provided the means to dope others, which is embarrassing to say the least when the team are supposed to be whiter than white, the longer this goes on, the worse it seems to those watching from the sidelines.
SheilaH
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The headline appears to be a bit deceptive. It suggests that BC cant support Wiggins because they have no evidence that will support him, but the report goes on to say they might have evidence but they cant access it because UKAD are controlling it.
However the stuff about Cope's journey is dynamite.
From the Daily Mail:
"Cope took a return train journey from Eastbourne to Manchester on June 8 to collect the package and had an overnight hotel stay at Gatwick Airport on June 11.
The next day he took a return flight to Geneva, hired a car and drove to La Toussuire to deliver the package in the now infamous jiffy bag, completing the return journey to the UK inside a day. If Wiggins was ill, why wait four days — and until the end of the race — to administer medication? Why not, as Wiggins' former doctor Prentice Steffen suggested last week, simply obtain the same medication which would cost eight euros at a local French pharmacy?"
As cover stories go its a bad one. If it is genuine, then it is very bizarre to plan a train journey to Manchester, a night in a hotel, two flights, a hire car journey, costing in total £600, when a quick trip to the four pharmacies in La Toussière could have furnished the medecine for €8. As MP Damian Collins remarked yesterday, the more details that emerge, the more questions need to be asked.
Im baffled as to why Wiggins has chosen to announce his retirement right now, in the middle of an investigation. Surely he'd have been better off waiting until the UKAD and the Parliamentary investigations were concluded and he was exonerated?
However the stuff about Cope's journey is dynamite.
From the Daily Mail:
"Cope took a return train journey from Eastbourne to Manchester on June 8 to collect the package and had an overnight hotel stay at Gatwick Airport on June 11.
The next day he took a return flight to Geneva, hired a car and drove to La Toussuire to deliver the package in the now infamous jiffy bag, completing the return journey to the UK inside a day. If Wiggins was ill, why wait four days — and until the end of the race — to administer medication? Why not, as Wiggins' former doctor Prentice Steffen suggested last week, simply obtain the same medication which would cost eight euros at a local French pharmacy?"
As cover stories go its a bad one. If it is genuine, then it is very bizarre to plan a train journey to Manchester, a night in a hotel, two flights, a hire car journey, costing in total £600, when a quick trip to the four pharmacies in La Toussière could have furnished the medecine for €8. As MP Damian Collins remarked yesterday, the more details that emerge, the more questions need to be asked.
Im baffled as to why Wiggins has chosen to announce his retirement right now, in the middle of an investigation. Surely he'd have been better off waiting until the UKAD and the Parliamentary investigations were concluded and he was exonerated?
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If it is a cover story then it is poor. The Alain Baxter point mentioned earlier might still be relevant in which case they should say so. UKAD seem to be in no hurry to clarify anything. I wonder if there is some point scoring / payback going on
SheilaH
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Who knows. UKAD got a kicking from the independent review after the Dan Stevens affair, including IIRC some excoriation from MPs, (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-bonar?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)
so they will need to be making sure they actually do something this time. Of course, the Parliamentary investigation is taking place in the context of cheating in sport as a whole which really does put the crosshairs on UKAD for its efficacy.
With regards to the 'package' story there is almost nothing that has come out of Brailsford's mouth that hasnt either been proved untrue (destination of Cope, Wiggins's whereabouts at alledged time of administration of package contents) or is yet to be backed up (Fluimucil), and now we have evidence that undermines Brailsford's claim that sending Cope on an international journey that took £600 and 5 days to prepare and carry out was the easiest way to get a £6 pack of over the counter decongestant available in pharmacies of which there were 4 in La Toussiere, to Wiggins.
The MPs arent accepting Brailsford's testimony as credible, surprise surprise, although they are couching it in more temperate terms....so far.
so they will need to be making sure they actually do something this time. Of course, the Parliamentary investigation is taking place in the context of cheating in sport as a whole which really does put the crosshairs on UKAD for its efficacy.
With regards to the 'package' story there is almost nothing that has come out of Brailsford's mouth that hasnt either been proved untrue (destination of Cope, Wiggins's whereabouts at alledged time of administration of package contents) or is yet to be backed up (Fluimucil), and now we have evidence that undermines Brailsford's claim that sending Cope on an international journey that took £600 and 5 days to prepare and carry out was the easiest way to get a £6 pack of over the counter decongestant available in pharmacies of which there were 4 in La Toussiere, to Wiggins.
The MPs arent accepting Brailsford's testimony as credible, surprise surprise, although they are couching it in more temperate terms....so far.
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Nicole Cooke asking similar and different questions than we are
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/dec/29/nicole-cooke-team-sky-british-cycling?CMP=twt_gu
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/dec/29/nicole-cooke-team-sky-british-cycling?CMP=twt_gu
Dogtrousers
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Remind me never to piss off Nicole Cooke.
ColinJ
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Don't ever piss off Nicole Cooke!
ColinJ
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I was standing at a sharp bend at the foot of a fast descent at Rivington for the Commonwealth Games women's road race in 2002. Nicole Cooke 'overCooke-d' it and almost crashed, losing touch with the leading group as a result. She clipped back in, chased back on, and then won the sprint for the gold medal. I thought at the time that she was a very determined young woman.
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I have all the time in the world for Nicole Cooke.
Dogtrousers
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I think none of our names are on her list. We're safe.
