Crankarm
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I am thinking of installing a steel shutter as are used in industral units/shops.
Garage security
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SomethingLikeThat
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- South London
But, combined with other security products or measures, you slow them down, and, hopefully, make them give up.
Night Train
Maker of Things
- Location
- Greater Manchester
You can also get a pair of mortice locks like these. They are keyed as pairs so you only need one key for both of them.
They fit one one each side of the door to lock it to the frame.
However, if the door is a little flexible and there is a gap around it then they can be crowbarred out of the keeps.
Security also depends on if you want to be able to lock and unlock it from the outside.
Many years ago I secured a garage door by cutting a small, snug hand sized hole near each of the bottom corners. The hole was as small as I could make it and reinforced to form a short tube. Inside each side I had a chunky security padlock and hasp that was only just in reach. I could put my hand in the hole, with the key, and unlock the padlock blind. I could lock it in the same way.
It secured the door and was difficult to 'see' to attack with any decent sized tools.
They fit one one each side of the door to lock it to the frame.
However, if the door is a little flexible and there is a gap around it then they can be crowbarred out of the keeps.
Security also depends on if you want to be able to lock and unlock it from the outside.
Many years ago I secured a garage door by cutting a small, snug hand sized hole near each of the bottom corners. The hole was as small as I could make it and reinforced to form a short tube. Inside each side I had a chunky security padlock and hasp that was only just in reach. I could put my hand in the hole, with the key, and unlock the padlock blind. I could lock it in the same way.
It secured the door and was difficult to 'see' to attack with any decent sized tools.
Broadside
Guru
- Location
- Fleet, Hants
I've got the Enfield version of these, the bolt has a very long throw (something like 80mm) so the frame cannot be jemmied to release the lock.
They are a job for a competent DIY-er but I wouldn't say they were easy to fit, at least not to my garage door. I do feel much more confident with them fitted especially as there is a visual deterrent as you can see from the outside that deadlocks have been fitted.
taximan
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- Whitby North Yorkshire.
I don't use my garage to keep the car in so the up n over doors are not required. I have built a wooden wall inside the garage with a work bench in front of it. I doubt if anyone could get past that lot in a hurry.
Lanzecki
Über Member
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- A Boreen, Ireland
Since the bar goes under the door into the garage the door is going stop the bar being lifted far enough to get the ground bolts out. That said if someone does that you'll have a problem opening the door if the bar is curved up too much.
Suffice to say, any security system is only gonna stop someone for so long. Having a system like this is going to turn some people away, but it's also an advert for something nice.
If you put enough security on those up and over doors a dedicated scrote is just gonna go thru the door. They are only 1mm Steel after all. Give me 5 mins and a good can opener.
The best security : Bike in the bedroom.
Globalti
Legendary Member
We have the same problem as the OP - the garage door is an up and over model with just the flimsy metal latches at each side operated by a central handle.
To make it stronger I've fitted a single gate bolt in the top of the door that goes into a deep hole in the frame, reinforced on the inside of the garage with a very thick steel plate screwed along the door frame. To open the door would mean forcing this bolt inwards against the reinforcing bar. Then I've fitted two more gate bolts at the bottom corners, bearing against the frame and preventing the door from being pulled outwards at the bottom. Each of the bolts is attached with long, thick screws to the door, I have considered replacing the screws with coach bolts but TBH I'm pretty confident in my modifications. The door is made from thick wood and is quite robust so it would be difficult to pull it open, unlike an aluminium roller type door, where I've seen the door forced upwards breaking the latches. Also since the door is recessed quite deeply from the outside I reckon it would be difficult to get a jemmy behind it. To get it open would take a fair amount of time and effort and make a lot of noise and the area is quite public and is overlooked by a neighbour's office.
The biggest risk for us is the opportunist thief and that's why I always take extra care when I'm messing around with bikes always to close the door, even if I just nip up the road for a test ride.
To make it stronger I've fitted a single gate bolt in the top of the door that goes into a deep hole in the frame, reinforced on the inside of the garage with a very thick steel plate screwed along the door frame. To open the door would mean forcing this bolt inwards against the reinforcing bar. Then I've fitted two more gate bolts at the bottom corners, bearing against the frame and preventing the door from being pulled outwards at the bottom. Each of the bolts is attached with long, thick screws to the door, I have considered replacing the screws with coach bolts but TBH I'm pretty confident in my modifications. The door is made from thick wood and is quite robust so it would be difficult to pull it open, unlike an aluminium roller type door, where I've seen the door forced upwards breaking the latches. Also since the door is recessed quite deeply from the outside I reckon it would be difficult to get a jemmy behind it. To get it open would take a fair amount of time and effort and make a lot of noise and the area is quite public and is overlooked by a neighbour's office.
The biggest risk for us is the opportunist thief and that's why I always take extra care when I'm messing around with bikes always to close the door, even if I just nip up the road for a test ride.
400bhp
Guru
Useful to keep the door closed as much as possible too when you are doing stuff in the garage-don't want opportunists knowing what you have.
I also keep an eye out for anyone following me into our street. I won't stop at my front door if there's a car I don't know. Which is very very rare.
SomethingLikeThat
Über Member
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- South London
When the scrap vans come up the road I'm always quick to pull the garage door down so they can't see inside. Who knows what dodgy friends those guys have.
Crosstrailer
Well-Known Member
I bought one like this for a similar reason... I have a brickwork drive and there is no point in fixing it to a removable brick!
The Mounting plate looks like this:
I found that I could mount the base securely by bolting the two holes furthest from the lock bracket It was secure enough:
I had something similar to this on a couple of garages I used to have when I owned a couple of concours Ford RS classic cars. They had obviously watched the garages and what went in them as on a visit to the one containing a Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 3 door I found they had damn near destroyed the garage door to get in, sledgehammer blows all over the door and they had even tried to smash the ground lock off. The garage door was mangled. They didn't get in though........
MacB
Lover of things that come in 3's
- Location
- Farnborough, Hampshire
Just resurrecting this thread as I'm looking at replacing our garage door and wondered if anyone had any experience. I was hoping to cover a few bases so ease of access, security and insulation. The best I've seen so far would seem to be the sectional style door with a wicket gate in the middle, like this:-
http://www.hormann.co.uk/garage-doors/sectional-doors/wicket-door-with-trip-free-threshold/
I have deabolts etc on our existing up and over but it's a faff especially when the kids are in and out all the time. Like others I'm loathe to leave the door open and thought a wicket gate with a key for each of them would be a good compromise.
Any thoughts or ideas?
http://www.hormann.co.uk/garage-doors/sectional-doors/wicket-door-with-trip-free-threshold/
I have deabolts etc on our existing up and over but it's a faff especially when the kids are in and out all the time. Like others I'm loathe to leave the door open and thought a wicket gate with a key for each of them would be a good compromise.
Any thoughts or ideas?
That looks excellent. I can't work out how much it is, and whether it can be installed by you?
