German wings 4U 9525
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Mad Doug Biker
Just a damaged guy.
- Location
- Craggy Island
Yes, how do you get over something like that?? Also, everyone will know what their son did now.
Fab Foodie
hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
- Location
- Kirton, Devon.
What surprises me is that it seems no-one got their mobile phones out and made a call during that 8 mins ....
shouldbeinbed
Rollin' along
- Location
- Manchester way
Seems like the relatively gentle dive angle didn't cause panic or concern until the last moments when the authorities report the screaming starting on the flight recording. I guess either they figured too late the trouble the pilot was having trying to get back in or realised how close the scenery was getting in the window.
classic33
Leg End Member
Fly by wire and automation took the flight engineer out of most cockpits.
At the time it was seen as progress and the way forward.
Also reduced the crew cost with one fell swoop.
The CEO of Lufthansa had a similar response. When asked by a journalist if it was suicide, he replied that when someone takes 149 people to their death, it is more than suicide. Usually the corporate reply would be evasive but he was brutally honest.
Pro Tour Punditry
Guru
I think there should be 4 people in the cockpit at all times, 2 of them with guns just to make sure there's no funny business.
This is just a presumption, but I would imagine at first that he was trying to keep calm so as not to alarm everyone and then, in the latter stages, started to get frantic as the panic set in. This may be what alerted the passengers to the situation at the end, coupled with the view of the mountains. In fact, if the dive angle was subtle enough not to alarm the passengers, he may have only realised himself that he was running out of negotiating time at the last minute.
I think if someone wants to bring down a plane, eventually they're gonna succeed no matter what measure you put in place. An option for the control tower to take over seems like a good idea to me but I do believe there is a "black hole" over some larger oceans where contact is lost anyway.
mybike
Grumblin at Garmin on the Granny Gear
- Location
- Not 'emel 'empstead
As someone has said, after 11/9 the passengers are not going to sit around to be threatened by armed men if they think they'll die anyway. There's an army in the cabin, prepared to defend the plane. Why lock the flight deck door?
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User169
Guest
Ads on the tube are being pulled..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ound-stations-hours-after-crash-10138230.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ound-stations-hours-after-crash-10138230.html
Brandane
Legendary Member
- Location
- Costa Clyde
Yebbut, security wouldn't let them through with the guns. Just like they don't let pilots through with more than 100ml of toothpaste, which is a fairly pointless exercise - as this tragedy proves.
shouldbeinbed
Rollin' along
- Location
- Manchester way
I don't know, I wasn't there nor am I familiar with the layout of this or other aircraft (not a flyer) as to how visible/audible the pilots actions would be. I'm simply responding to the news reports that have said that the screaming didn't become apparent on the flight recorder until shortly before the impact.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
Love the tweet from a German passenger who flew yesterday with germanwings - the pilot greeted every passenger then stood at the front of the plane and told them all that he and his crew would take care of each of them. After he finished the silence was broken by spontaneous applause. How comforting was that... well done him.
