Giro 2018 "contains spoilers"

[PpPete]

I wouldn't rely on Kelly to be making subtle implications through careful choice of words. This is a man who can't differentiate between Mitchelton and Michelin.

Nor between turd and the one who come in between second and fourth.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Missing afternoon cycling courtesy Eurosport so much I even went out for a ride. No drugs involved and the 2 beers afterwards were covered by a Thirst Urgent Supplement exemption.

 

[Bollo]

I wouldn't rely on Kelly to be making subtle implications through careful choice of words. This is a man who can't differentiate between Mitchelton and Michelin.

It's all about the pelotone (rhymes with bone, phone etc) in our house. For all the pish-taking, Kelly's commentary has grown on me a bit recently.

 

[Adam4868]

Tell you what you lot,I don't mind a bit of banter about Froomey,but your crossing a line with king Kelly ! Come round our house and take the pish out of a oirish accent and you'll have Mrs Adam to deal with !

 

[brommers]

I wouldn't rely on Kelly to be making subtle implications through careful choice of words. This is a man who can't differentiate between Mitchelton and Michelin.

At least he doesn't have the Orica v Ulrika problem any more.

 

[PaulB]

I can't listen to Shaun Kelly without wanting to confess my sins.

 

[hoopdriver]

I have no sins

 

[Crackle]

I don't know what to think of that article besides the fact that it's inevitable. I like York but she does see things through the prism of the period she was riding in and in the back of my mind is always her own positive for testosterone, I think riders of her generation find it difficult not to be suspicious, as do we all, I guess.

 

[hoopdriver]

Well if she was going to offer expert opinion and analysis she might have started by breaking down the actual ride and discussing it rather than blowing a lot of smoke about it's being 'unbelievable' - and even there quoting others. She might have discussed the pace Froome made on the various ascents - which were apparently quick but by no means record setting - and his gaining much of his time on those manic descents. Where does that fit in with 'unbelievable' - maybe it does, who knows, but she certainly doesn't address any of these facts about the ride. Nada. She merely repeats the usual insinuations and offers absolutely nothing more - not a thing. The article could have been written by just about anybody on CC or the cricket writer on the Guardian. It is meaningless whichever view you have of Froome/Sky/or the stage

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Well if she was going to offer expert opinion and analysis she might have started by breaking down the actual ride and discussing it rather than blowing a lot of smoke about it's being 'unbelievable' - and even there quoting others. She might have discussed the pace Froome made on the various ascents - which were apparently quick but by no means record setting - and his gaining much of his time on those manic descents. Where does that fit in with 'unbelievable' - maybe it does, who knows, but she certainly doesn't address any of these facts about the ride. Nada. She merely repeats the usual insinuations and offers absolutely nothing more - not a thing. The article could have been written by just about anybody on CC or the cricket writer on the Guardian. It is meaningless whichever view you have of Froome/Sky/or the stage

Yes, it would be good if Froome's descending were now recognised as being really top notch. When he goes for it, he really goes for it. Add in that Dumoulin appeared to back off the pace when he'd dropped Pinot on the way up the Colle delle Finestre so that he could ride in a group. A group that was to slow his descent and one that was always only going to let him do the bulk of the pacework and leave him on the final climb as soon as the opportunity presented itself.

 

[smutchin]

Velon have published selected data from Froome's stage 19 ride. Apparently, he was putting out 397 watts during his attack on the Colle delle Finestre, compared to the 395 watts of Dumoulin, which they published a few days ago...
https://www.velon.cc/en/news/2018/05/why-397-is-chris-froome-s-winning-giro-d-italia-number

That translates to around 5.6w/kg, according to one report I've read, which puts it within the realms of 'believable' performance.

It's far from being the full story but it's an interesting insight.

 

[rich p]

To be honest, I've thought for years that Robert Millar and Philippa York both write glib trivial articles with little fact or science to back them up.
Just because you were a decent cyclist doesn't confer a right to insightful analysis...

...see Ian Botham and Alan Shearer for other sports' equivalents

 

[rich p]

p.s. Where's Kimmage these days?

 

[Adam4868]

So after everything we now know absolutely nothing more about Froome other than he's a ''unbelievable" cyclist.I very much doubt that Kelly using the word unbelievable insinuates Froome cheating ! I read something else earlier with Hinault coming to similar conclusions.Plenty of opinions I'll give them that,thank feck social media wasn't around in their era.......

 

[roadrash]

If you think its bad now with all the so called experts spouting crap , just imagine how much worse it will be once the ongoing inhaler saga comes to a close