Got swore at on camera...

[4F]

You chaps need to re-read my first post. The road was needlessly blocked

I can only assume this needless blocking is on a video that you have yet to put up. The video you have linked shows a van that has stopped to let the cyclist through and then rather than thanking the van in question the cyclists starts getting all arsey.

Come on Cab get to grips

 

[hackbike 666]

I don't think there is a villain to this piece, its too strong a word for someone swearing. I couldn't pass her while the other chap was, he passed comment, I passed comment, that'd be it but she wanted to talk about it. So I told her, and she swore at me. Villainy is too strong a term.

I said it made you look a villian.Didn't say I thought you were the villian as I wasn't there so it's hard to judge.

Actually with motons,motorists or whatever you want to call them if there is any sort of negavitivity towards them then the old swearing comes into action.

 

[Cab]

I can only assume this needless blocking is on a video that you have yet to put up. The video you have linked shows a van that has stopped to let the cyclist through and then rather than thanking the van in question the cyclists starts getting all arsey.

Come on Cab get to grips

She had plenty of room to stop before taking a position right in the middle of the road, behind the parked car to the left of her. Indeed thats what most vehicles do there when there is someone else heading down the road, its normal to let people pass there. Even when she did move over, there was precious little space to pass easily there, but it could be done, and that would have been a non-event had there not been a bloke I know stuck behind her too. He commented, I replied, she asked what that was about, I answered, her response was disproportionately rude.

Seems to me that people are making way more of this than I did.

Its a shop I walk past maybe three times a week, a lady who always nodded hello as I've done so; its a tight knit little set of shops I go to for many supplies. Just seemed needlessly rude of her.

 

[BentMikey]

Cab, you know this sort of diatribe is exactly why I wanted to be able to ignore you. You're in the wrong in this case. Accept that your behaviour was of poor quality, and move on.

 

[Cab]

Cab, you know this sort of diatribe is exactly why I wanted to be able to ignore you. You're in the wrong in this case. Accept that your behaviour was of poor quality, and move on.

In the wrong about what? She asked why me and another cyclist were commenting on her blocking our way, I told her (she asked, and to do so would add exactly nothing to her journey time with the bin van behind me), and she swore at me. What, precisely was out of line in my action?

And more to the point, what diatribe? I've described her action as needlessly blocking the road and being a bit rude; diatribe?

 

[4F]

Cab, if you stop the video at 23 seconds in there is a least the length of 1 car space between the alleged offending van and the parked car. Why should she pull in behind a parked car when there is clearly more than enough space for you to get through with her position.

I would say that she is less likely to give the next cyclist she sees as much room after getting the self rightous abuse from you.

This is even more of a non event than that video with the bollards and I cannot believe that you saw this as a problem.

 

[BentMikey]

Lee has it pretty much spot on. You got on your high horse and acted like an a$$, when she did nothing much wrong at all. I can't blame her for swearing and flicking the V at you, since she was responding to something that you instigated. Her behaviour isn't particularly good, sure, but yours was worse. You definitely come off as the villain in that video.

 

[Cab]

Cab, if you stop the video at 23 seconds in there is a least the length of 1 car space between the alleged offending van and the parked car. Why should she pull in behind a parked car when there is clearly more than enough space for you to get through with her position.

I would say that she is less likely to give the next cyclist she sees as much room after getting the self rightous abuse from you.

This is even more of a non event than that video with the bollards and I cannot believe that you saw this as a problem.

She had all day to move in to that gap as I approached, and she didn't. She showed no sign of doing so. She chose to wait in the middle of the road.

And abuse? Only after she swore at me, having asked for what me and the other chap were talking about.

Why should she pull in behind the parked car? Its more a question of why she, unlike the vast bulk of road users there, chose instead to pull out from behind it rather than wait behind until the oncoming traffic had passed, and why when she had done so she then simply waited in the middle of the road. I wouldn't have thought any more of it but for the attitude she took after asking why me and the other chap were expressing a little irritation towards her at each other.

 

[Cab]

Lee has it pretty much spot on. You got on your high horse and acted like an a$$, when she did nothing much wrong at all. I can't blame her for swearing and flicking the V at you, since she was responding to something that you instigated. Her behaviour isn't particularly good, sure, but yours was worse. You definitely come off as the villain in that video.

I didn't instigate anything; she chose the road position, she chose to wind her window down to talk, she chose to respond by being rude. Could I have found a more polite way of saying why two cyclists found her behaviour a bit peeving? Maybe. Should I have? Would it have made the slightest difference? I doubt it.

 

[itchyrider]

Actually cab, You need to go into a room and shout out the loudest and most horrible curse you can about car/van drivers. You will feel a lot better mate

And i also respect other peoples honesty to tell you how it is.

But personally what a blinkin good Thread you started here!!!!

 

[4F]

Cab, how wide is your bike ? From what I see she pulled to a stop at 15 seconds in to wait for you and then you crossed the point of the front of her car at 24 seconds. To me that looks like a considerate motorist who has stopped for the cyclists and rather than getting thanked for it gets a smart arsed comment.

I would put it to you that due to your actions next time she comes down that road and see's a cyclist she is unlikely to stop and will carry on regardless like a lot of other motons do.

 

[tightwad]

The lady doth protest too much

 

[4F]

Cab, just watched your Magdelene Video again and I feel a sense of deja vu

 

[Cab]

Cab, how wide is your bike ? From what I see she pulled to a stop at 15 seconds in to wait for you and then you crossed the point of the front of her car at 24 seconds. To me that looks like a considerate motorist who has stopped for the cyclists and rather than getting thanked for it gets a smart arsed comment.

I would put it to you that due to your actions next time she comes down that road and see's a cyclist she is unlikely to stop and will carry on regardless like a lot of other motons do.

There isn't space to easily pass her there with the pot holes, and if you check you'll see that when I reach her theres the other cyclist behind her wondering whether to move around. We make eye contact, he's out of the saddle so I let him come around first. Theres just about space to pass her and the pot holes quite gingerly; she should really not be taking the middle of the road there but instead, like most other road users there, waiting a little further back to give space for the oncoming traffic to pass (and make space for her) without slowing everyone up.

Essentially by stopping right in the middle of the lane she made it hard for the cyclist behind and the other one in front; if you can't get down the road because its blocked ahead anyway, its a bit daft to stop right in the middle of the lane.

As for the next time she sees a cyclist, I'm willing to wager that'd be another dozen times before she got to work. If she winds her window down to ask what every cyclist is saying to every other cyclist it'll take a very long time indeed; she knew what she was doing.

 

[4F]

Cab the potholes are level with the parked van. By your logic you would have to be next to the pavement on the right hand side to avoid those potholes.

Also why does the cyclist following the van not wait as you clearly have right of way and why do you let him pass ?

I think the problem here is you and your attitude to motorists.