"Granny gear" and sexism

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Candid discussions around our unthinking use of everyday language have resulted in lots of gradual changes, too many to list all of them.
Please note that the following contains terms that I (now) know know to be offensive, but which I am including for the sake of clarity.

When I was a kid growing up in a quiet and almost entirely white market town in East Yorkshire, everyone would get their takeaway meals from either the chippy or, if they were feeling more cosmopolitan, from the '"chinky". A few years later, as a teenager, my friends and I would talk about people getting "monged" when they drank too much. There was no racist or disablist 'intent' in this use of language. Nonetheless, it was still racist, or disablist. That doesn't mean that everyone who ever said those things is a bad person. It isn't necessarily a big drama. But the world is a little bit better, I think, now that the vast majority people in my home town would say they are getting a chinese meal for their takeaway tea when they don't fancy the chippy (or a curry or a pizza - that choices have also improved!).

It isn't all that tricky. My elderly dad, now in a specialist care home with a range of illnesses including significant dementia, has probably gone back to getting it wrong. His brother (a relatively traditional working class north-eastern bloke brought up in a pit village who worked most of his life for the co-op and became a home owner for the first time when Maggie flogged off the council estate so we aren't aren't talking about some lentil leftie Islington champagne socialist) made the change to talking about getting a 'chinese takeaway' instead, and has stuck with it. Probably only in the last 20 years, once he was into his sixties. Change can happen.

And it's not just about intent.
 

bpsmith

Veteran
Yes, including turning a wish for something that would probably reduce bullying into a false dichotomy of either being useless or eradicating all bullying. HTH HAND
This will be my last post in this thread, as you are exaggerating what I said now.

I have experienced my share of bullying and it’s not good. Having a step through bike is not the root of all bullying. It always manifests itself based on the people in question. Believe me.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Candid discussions around our unthinking use of everyday language have resulted in lots of gradual changes, too many to list all of them. As just one example, it is now no longer acceptable to refer to something regarded as a bit pathetic as "gay", except perhaps among a few unreconstructed old men and groups of 9-year-old boys. I think that's an entirely good thing, isn't it?

That's correct but it pays to select one's targets carefully. In choosing to use Granny Gear as the modus for debate folk risk looking, frankly, ridiculous
 

Tin Pot

Guru
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Shaft.
Ball (bearing).
Sprocket.
Office bike.
Bolt.
Cockpit.
Rubber.
Chopper.
Equipment.
Helmet.
Gear.
Tool.
Old Man’s Tadger*.

With a rumoured 2,600 slang terms for genitals I’m pretty sure the whole bike is made up of private parts if you look hard enough.


*Not a bike part as far as I’m aware, just a term that’s always made me giggle. Best said with a West Country accent for some reason.

Rim! Rim! How could I forget rim?

Oh wait, all genders have those. Dammit.

@Fnaar
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
[QUOTE 5243008, member: 45"]"What do people think about the term 'granny gear'?"

Hard to ask that question without asking that question.[/QUOTE]
Plus this is a discussion forum, why are we being asked to think carefully about our questions? Sometimes someone will have a thought and just want to ask if anyone else has thought it too.

People ask lots of questions on CC, some very daft. They usually do so without a raft of people telling them how stupid the question is and that they shouldnt even ask the question because it will trivialise the subject.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Another reason I don't understand the use of "granny ring" is that it's longer than "small ring" so users are making extra effort to be less clear and possibly offend someone. It suggests really bad decision-making.
 

FishFright

More wheels than sense
As ever when sexism is discussed before long it turns into a testosterone fuelled head butting session.

Time to grow up boys or shut up boys.
 

screenman

Legendary Member
Odd how things like this that years ago were not thought offensive but now are to some. I wonder what we think fine now will be upsetting people in another 40 years

Inner ring is the term I use.
 
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