Hit and Run in Knightsbridge. Cyclist chases down motorist.
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fozy tornip
A usual suspect.
Nobody likes an uppity cycle-cammer.
Matthew_T
"Young and Ex-whippet"
- Location
- Prestatyn, North Wales
[QUOTE 2463460, member: 30090"]Could have been worse. I just hope droid that you've taken some of the advice offered on this thread as constructive criticism.[/quote]
That is exactly what it isnt. Whenever there is a video posted on this forums the same people reply with very nonconstructive criticism. It absolutely sickens me that we have cheerful pages such as the Welcome Mat and the Cafe and yet Commuting is full of very uptight, up-their-own-arses people saying the same things over and over again. If you want to say something pointless, do in in the comments of the video where that comment can be deleted by the poster, not on here where it should be a friendly community where good advice is given.
Things like "get rid of the cameras" and "you were at fault there" is not being constructive or helpful. It just makes the person feel bad for no real reason.
That is exactly what it isnt. Whenever there is a video posted on this forums the same people reply with very nonconstructive criticism. It absolutely sickens me that we have cheerful pages such as the Welcome Mat and the Cafe and yet Commuting is full of very uptight, up-their-own-arses people saying the same things over and over again. If you want to say something pointless, do in in the comments of the video where that comment can be deleted by the poster, not on here where it should be a friendly community where good advice is given.
Things like "get rid of the cameras" and "you were at fault there" is not being constructive or helpful. It just makes the person feel bad for no real reason.
both of those can be very constructive comments!
the first "... or you will put yourself in danger by harassing random drivers"
the second (as in many of yours!) ".... you have much to learn"
AndyRM
XOXO
- Location
- North Shields
That's not true. There's a video on the front page of Commuting with the title 'Am I Over-reacting?' which has been favourably commented on because it was a genuine incident of concern.
The driving was poor in this video, but so was the cycling and the reaction, which is what has (I assume) annoyed others. The reason it's so frustrating is that this sort of video does nothing to help road relations between different users, and makes cyclists look like over-zealous hypocrites.
Sittingduck
Legendary Member
- Location
- Somewhere flat
What's the point in posting it on a forum if you don't think it should be commented upon? Am I missing something here...? Just upload it to Youtube and leave it there without mentioning it in this forum, if you don't want CC'ers to make remarks upon it. Jeez, this thread has reminds me why I don't come into the Commuting section.
Boris Bajic
Guest
I am one of those who has criticised this video, some of yours and one or two others (the squeakyJock who gave Road Tax lectures).
However, I have been strongly supportive of videos posted by BlackPanther, BentMikey and others. I am a strong supporter of Gaz's Youtube stuff.
I wrote positively about the terrifying video when Squeaky Jock (see above) nearly got side-swiped by an artic on a roundabout.
But... If there is behaviour like that shown by the OP in this thread, it seems perfectly reasonable to say that it appears unacceptable, unbalanced, a grotesque over-reaction and a monstrous ego trip if that is how it comes across after careful reflection. This is only the Internet and we may all be wrong. I will be interested to see if the Police take any action against the driver.
I found the undertaking move questionable. I found the use of the horn almost comically zealous (smacking of a Police Wannabe) and the attitude taken with the driver overbearing and pompous. The response by the OP seems the very antithesis of proportional, which seems to fit his MO in other confrontations.
In some of your posts, you were advised by many (I among them) that this is a mad world full of mad people and that it was best to pick your battles with care. I think you received a lot of very constructive criticism. You've even said yourself that you've calmed down. I think there is a place for these responses.
If you disagree, I think we can accommodate that.
mr_cellophane
Legendary Member
- Location
- Essex
gaz
Cycle Camera TV
- Location
- South Croydon
[QUOTE 2463626, member: 1314"]Droid - I posted about you on the thread about the Road Wars documentary. I observed then that you don't seem to enjoy your cycling, and therefore I felt sorry for you. I also observed that a friend, or friends, should help you out. I'm no professional in these things but whatever demons you have that is making you over-react need to be dealt with.
By the way, you're more then welcome to come to our London CC Commuters curry night - which is held regularly in, er, Tooting![/quote]
regularly? Are you not inviting me now! *HUMPH*
By the way, you're more then welcome to come to our London CC Commuters curry night - which is held regularly in, er, Tooting![/quote]
regularly? Are you not inviting me now! *HUMPH*
mr_cellophane
Legendary Member
- Location
- Essex
I would have helped, but as you've not mentioned me, it would obviously be unwelcome. So FU
mr_cellophane
Legendary Member
- Location
- Essex
Interesting. If the Droid had pulled that undertake on a FNRttC, he'd have got a bit more than the Eyebrow of Disapproval. And I hate Airzounds. And zealotry isnt my thing. Nor is paternalism. But... I cant help liking him. I'm impressed with the way he put the driver on the spot, and unlike the folk who see aggression in his demeanour, I think he comes across as a good-humoured sort of cove. He's created a character, and perhaps become a little bit too seduced by its superhero tendencies, but as fictions go, the Droid is a good one.
The driving was dangerous and abysmal. Boris might be factually correct to get all Tom Jones about it, but doesn't seem to have any answers about how we get to a situation where it is unusual for motorists deliberately to endanger vulnerable road users whenever the fancy takes them. I reckon that a talking to by the Droid might just make them think before doing it again. I've chased drivers down for close passes before (without the cameras, the undertaking, the horn and the pseudo-official demeanour), and my experience is that it is worth doing. As long as you resist the urge to shout and swear at them. Sometimes drivers are apologetic, sometimes defensive, and sometimes furious, but what they almost always are, to my immense gratification, is afraid. Of little ol' me! Your mum was right about bullies - they are always cowards who can only do what they do because they feel more powerful - anything that disrupts that power dynamic is getting somewhere.
The driving was dangerous and abysmal. Boris might be factually correct to get all Tom Jones about it, but doesn't seem to have any answers about how we get to a situation where it is unusual for motorists deliberately to endanger vulnerable road users whenever the fancy takes them. I reckon that a talking to by the Droid might just make them think before doing it again. I've chased drivers down for close passes before (without the cameras, the undertaking, the horn and the pseudo-official demeanour), and my experience is that it is worth doing. As long as you resist the urge to shout and swear at them. Sometimes drivers are apologetic, sometimes defensive, and sometimes furious, but what they almost always are, to my immense gratification, is afraid. Of little ol' me! Your mum was right about bullies - they are always cowards who can only do what they do because they feel more powerful - anything that disrupts that power dynamic is getting somewhere.
TrafficDroid
Guest
[QUOTE 2463552, member: 30090"]It's constructive, his initial reaction of wanting to after the motorist whilst honourable was aggressive and he could have caused an incident.[/quote]well put.
TrafficDroid
Guest
TrafficDroid
Guest
Brilliant. What can I say. I apologise to the cyclist I undertook. I apologise for being concerned for my fellow cyclists well being and welfare. I felt the duty to catch the Driver as I was surprised he didn't stop. It was a hasty but firm decision to commence pursuit. Maybe I should have chased him and got away. Anyways thank you. Criticisms are welcome..constructively of course.
