Hopefully Lesson Learnt To Take A Phone

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screenman

Squire
Sometimes having a working method of communication is pointless, because the person at the other end simply doesn't listen.
I've already pointed out that I often ride in areas WITHOUT A MOBILE PHONE SIGNAL. There have never been any phone boxes in these areas either. Did no one ride a bike before mobile phones were invented? If I have a mechanical I fix it. If I couldn't fix it I'd just have to walk.

Why and who would not listen, this post has been going around in my head since it was put there, I am having difficulty working out why this would be a reason not to carry a phone.
 

vickster

Squire
What if someone, i.e. you is hurt? I think you can make a 999 call without signal? OK, if unconscious, not going to really help, but a broken limb shouldn't be a barrier to trying to summon assistance
 
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junkie_ball

junkie_ball

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wow just checked this thread and cannot believe the response to the story i posted originally. It was only a post to try and encourage people to carry a phone or some form of emergency contacts when out riding. Everyone has the right to choose to take a phone or indeed emergency contact details with them or not. Only thing to remember is only you can take responsibility for you own safety whilst out on a bike whether your alone or in a group. Stay safe peeps.
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
I always carry my phone just incase , by as I have a note 2 its bulky in my back zip pocket on my shirt . There's a phone I'm looking at getting in future just because of its size its a no frills phone that's favoured by criminal because it can easily be inserted into your bottom . I don't plan on storing it up there , but its compact enough to put a n the mp3 pocket on my camelbak
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lds-smallest-mobile-proves-hit-prisoners.html
Did you get one of these phones yet? I've just bought one so I've put a few pictures and a brief overview of it in the reviews subforum if you fancy a look.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
What if someone, i.e. you is hurt? I think you can make a 999 call without signal? OK, if unconscious, not going to really help, but a broken limb shouldn't be a barrier to trying to summon assistance

I can assure you that if there is no signal you can fail to make a 999 call just as well as a normal call.
How do you think the radio would magically work differently ?
 

vickster

Squire
My phone has offered me the option of an emergency call when there has been no signal. I have no idea how it works, I have zero knowledge of telecommunications. Thanks for being so patronising however
 
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ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
My phone has offered me the option of an emergency call when there has been no signal. I have no idea how it works, I have zero knowledge of telecommunications
You would be getting a signal from another network instead. It wouldn't work if you couldn't pick up any signal at all which is certainly the case in some places round here.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
My phone has offered me the option of an emergency call when there has been no signal. I have no idea how it works, I have zero knowledge of telecommunications. Thanks for being so patronising however

ah, done some digging, and stand corrected (partly). It seems we do now have national roaming for emergency calls (only) - introduced in 2009 it seems. It has always been in the standards, but for various perfectly good reasons never implemented until a few years ago. There were and are good reasons to stop calls without SIMs in the phones - to prevent anonymous nuisance calls - though again possible in theory, though blocked by UK operators. The phone will try, but it won't connect (without SIM)

Apart from that, most of the video chap's comments are broadly correct.

A point of info - in the UK 999 and 112 are actually the same in how they work - but as he says, 112 works abroad too. They are both handled identically.

All that said, no-signal (from any network) then no call.
 
My phone has offered me the option of an emergency call when there has been no signal. I have no idea how it works, I have zero knowledge of telecommunications. Thanks for being so patronising however

Lets not confuse the issues here

There is no signal, and no signal from YOUR provider.

If there is a signal from your provider (for example) Orange, you can use £, Vodaphone or another provider tht does have a signal for emegencies

If there is truly no signal at all then you are not phoning anybody
 

screenman

Squire
So what are the chances of there being no signal? I live in rural Lincolnshire and travel the county most weeks, I can, it seems get a signal everywhere.

I carry a phone at all times, not just for my benefit but for those of others who may need some kind of help.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
So what are the chances of there being no signal? I live in rural Lincolnshire and travel the county most weeks, I can, it seems get a signal everywhere.

I carry a phone at all times, not just for my benefit but for those of others who may need some kind of help.

whilst "national roaming for emergency calls" does allow such a call if phone can't see you provider's network, but can see another, this may not help as much as you might think since, strangely enough, all the providers roll out coverage in pretty much the same places - but it could help in marginal areas.

Also - the phone offering you the option to attempt an emergency call isn't the same as successfully connecting
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
My phone has offered me the option of an emergency call when there has been no signal. I have no idea how it works, I have zero knowledge of telecommunications. Thanks for being so patronising however

Appologies for being patronising. Working in telecomms I tend to impatient when total guff gets regularly posted - but for once the "guff" was.actually true and my knowledge was out of date.
 
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