how would you react?

[Andy in Germany]

I may think it is silly not to, and the arguments against are specious, but it is your choice, just as it was the luddites to smash their machines.

This is one of our local trams. You'll notice the colour.

According to Wikipedia these trams are 3.7m high, 2.6m wide, and 38m long. They are, as you can see, bright yellow and have 3 headlights, as well as indicators and rear lights, and being rail vehicles they tend to follow the same route every time they pass.

And yet frequently car drivers completely fail to see them, and pull out in front of them, or drive into them.

If drivers in Stuttgart are managing not to see this, I reckon they'll have no problem missing a hi-vis vest.

And Luddites did a lot more than smash machines...

 

[classic33]

You missed the first question, which is
Who is advocating compulsory high visibility clothing ?

I may think it is silly not to, and the arguments against are specious, but it is your choice, just as it was the luddites to smash their machines.

Now helmets, that's a different issue.

The Luddites never smashed their machines.

 

[Drago]

I it ain't because people don't see, it's because they don't look. In most cases you could be on fire and they'd still run you over. That's why the DfT found no decrease in casualty rates among roadworkers attributable to the garments.

 

[Venod]

He said " that's really nice hi-viz that you are wearing "

He could have thought you were wearing really nice viz man, that acid plays hell with the eye sight.

 

[User66445]

Drago, I refer you back to my original post. You cannot guard against lapses in concentration, but you can against people not seeing you because you are wearing black at night.

 

[Drago]

Surely you'd be displaying lights at night, in the same manner the drivers of black cars are required to?

 

[tommaguzzi]

i wasnt wearing black at night it was mid morning on a sunny day

 

[Andy in Germany]

Surely you'd be displaying lights at night, in the same manner the drivers of black cars are required to?

Or indeed grey cars are supposed to in fog. They don't as a rule but you know, the principle is there...

 

[Drago]

I like Meet the Ancestors. They archaeologists dig a 6" deep hole, and then make the presenters stand in it. Insanity of the first order, but fear not! They wear hard hats to protects against (presumably) unexpected meteoritic impact, and thank God for their hi viz else we wouldn't even know they were there. Wonderful material.

i wasnt wearing black at night it was mid morning on a sunny day

No distress flares, flags, or sirens? You fool! No wonder the chap that couldn't see you was so irate.

 

[Alan O]

Drago, I refer you back to my original post. You cannot guard against lapses in concentration, but you can against people not seeing you because you are wearing black at night.

It's not all or nothing, high-viz or black at night.

 

[Drago]

Going a full 180 degrees from the hi viz discussion, black isn't the best camo at night. A very dark grey, or a blotchy black and very dark blue are more effective.

 

[classic33]

Drago, I refer you back to my original post. You cannot guard against lapses in concentration, but you can against people not seeing you because you are wearing black at night.

What colour for days then?
Black can stand out better than a light yellow. At night, under LED lighting you're relying on the 2 plus 2 to get you seen.

 

[Drago]

Research by scientists and supported by Mountain and Lowland Rescue has found standard yellow hi vis to make you less conspicuous against a rural background. MR reverted to red, and LR to a dual colour hi vis as a result of the research.

What seems obvious, actually rarely is...

 

[tommaguzzi]

No wonder the chap that couldn't see you was so irate.

but he did see me, thats why he called out from about 10 yards away. bloody hell i've opened a can of worms here, if this goes on it looks like it will get it's own special section like the plastic hat debate.

 

[User66445]

Drago, do you understand what high visibility is all about?