Hugely exaggerated Hand Signals.

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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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I followed a guy on my way home .he had several lights front and back extreme high visibility retro reflective stuff bright yellow gloves etc you get the picture .No-one could ever use a "sorry mate didn't see you".

The notable thing was his hand signals they were very exaggerated and precise .he would raise his arm almost vertical then down again to horizontal with arm straight as a board.It was eye catching but looked very mechanical and weird.

Anyone else do this and do you think it is effective.

It's not that motorists do not see you because you are not visible (whatever you wear) it is that their poor little brains are so distracted by non essential things that they don't register you.
 
These days I only make left hand (nearside) signals for following cyclists, in case they try to sneak up inside me.
A left signal means "it is ok to overtake me" to most drivers, the exact opposite of the behaviour I want from them.

Exaggerated legalistic cycling doesn't really add to safety and may impair it when safety and the law conflict.

I am not sure what exaggerated means in this context. Depending on the situation wrt other traffic, particularly cars, I will make a firm, not overly long, hand signal to show my intentions. Mainly when turning right with following and oncoming traffic. No hand or arm waving. If you are going to make one then it is no good making a half-hearted, apologetic signal.
 
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Was it Augustus Windsock? No longer he's stayed alive so long! ^_^



Interesting that the old Public Information Film implies cyclists should be "tucked-in again close to the kerb..."


^_^:laugh:Wow excellent find, I've not seen that in decades.

I'm not high-vizzed up with multiple lights, but funnily enough I do indicate putting my index finger and thumb in the Kenny Everett giant hands position, and do a kind of up and down jazz hands wrist wriggle in the direction of planned movement, like a child shooting and recoiling from a gun. I do this movement at the same sort of speed as a flashing indicator on a car. It makes me smile every time and some motorists find it amusing too^_^
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I followed a guy on my way home .he had several lights front and back extreme high visibility retro reflective stuff bright yellow gloves etc you get the picture .No-one could ever use a "sorry mate didn't see you".

The notable thing was his hand signals they were very exaggerated and precise .he would raise his arm almost vertical then down again to horizontal with arm straight as a board.It was eye catching but looked very mechanical and weird.

Anyone else do this and do you think it is effective.

That’s the way we’re trained to do it by British Cycling, on the ride leadership course. It’s the agreed best practice technique. The arm straight up is also to signal to the Junction watch man that they need to get up front and do their stuff, as the next turn is coming up.
 
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Salford
I do it on one particular roundabout at Irlam locks, my commute time coincides with the start time of the convoy of tipper trucks leaving their depot and in order to turn right I need to break into their little race, I've found it's an effective way of getting the drivers attention when he's got his umpteen tons of death machine so close to my rear wheel I'm probably in the blind spot beneath the cab.
That'll be PP O'Connor I suppose? I think they must make it policy to hire crap drivers.
 

pjd57

Guru
Location
Glasgow
On roundabouts or moving into a right hand lane , especially if there's a left filter , I do like to give it a good big wave .
 

Siclo

Veteran
That'll be PP O'Connor I suppose? I think they must make it policy to hire crap drivers.

Yep, I've been riding that route for a decade now, seeing them everyday, other than their tipper truck grand prix I don't have too many problems with them ever since I went into the yard some years ago and graphically explained to the management exactly how I would visit my displeasure upon them personally should their driver's stupidity continue.
 
Location
Salford
Yep, I've been riding that route for a decade now, seeing them everyday, other than their tipper truck grand prix I don't have too many problems with them ever since I went into the yard some years ago and graphically explained to the management exactly how I would visit my displeasure upon them personally should their driver's stupidity continue.
I'll look out for you. We share a route in opposite directions.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
I sometimes do if I am leading a group who don't know the route to give them a chance of seeing the impending turn
Yes, I do that too, shame my ladies are mostly to busy chatting to notice :laugh:
That’s the way we’re trained to do it by British Cycling, on the ride leadership course. It’s the agreed best practice technique. The arm straight up is also to signal to the Junction watch man that they need to get up front and do their stuff, as the next turn is coming up.
Yes, I did the BC Breeze training, that was the way they showed us.
I had another CTC instructor, he went through a roundabout (3rd exit) keeping his right arm up all the way.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I'll go further... sometimes when turning in traffic I actually jab or waggle my hand in the direction I'm indicating, to make sure the driver behind has no doubts about my intentions.
 
You jab them in the ribs or the eye?
Lol well that'll certainly grab their attention!
Years ago when i was young and dangerous :smile: I was in the middle of the right hand lane of a junction when a fire engine was wriggling through the junction from the opposite direction all blues & twos. I stayed where i was to let him through and some eedjit behind decided he could squeeze under my outstretched arm, two wheels on the middle island.
I hit the dead centre of his roof so hard I put a massive dent in it! I hoped I might've compromised his monocoque (not a phrase I get to say often) and somewhere down the road his windscreen would shatter. One can dream... :smile:
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
On a serious note, I often see cyclists with their right arm fully extended horizontally and for a prolonged period. I would never do that for fear of it being chopped off by a close passing motorist.
 
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