Idiots on bikes

[ufkacbln]

No Glen - not a regular occurrence someone smashing the crap out of the rear of a parked police car with blue lights flashing, jeez.

Funnily enough nor is someone knocking off cyclists without hiviz and lights

The figures for accidents do not reflect what should be an increase as the nights darw in and the ninjas emerge

 

[oldstrath]

Fair enough, if that's what you think, I just don't think it's as clear cut as that.
What about the bin Lorry driver up your neck of the woods, he didn't see anything because he couldn't, he was unconscious!
Sometimes sh## happens, most other times it can be avoided - whether that be by using your common sense or by the other party driving better.

That person (no word I want to use to describe him would be acceptable) is an extreme example of the fact that many are incapable of driving well - he is especially bad because he knew of a problem and lied, but I suspect he's at the top end of the curve, rather than out on his own. Serious retesting has to happen sometime.

And yes, i do have what reiver called the 'blinkered view' that it is more important for drivers to change than cyclists. Simple physics - motor vehicles are the cause of the danger because of their kinetic energy and momentum, so it's more vital that they change.

 

[ufkacbln]

Personally I find the best visibility aid is an AirZound

A quick blast and it is amazing how visible you become

Stupid overtakes, left hooks are changed dramatically as they realise that there are now people looking at them

 

[GrumpyGregry]

As has been said there clearly are people about who shouldn't be driving. It's not a regular everyday occurrence though is it? I mean if you can't see the retina burning blue lights flashing what hope is there for anybody?

Selective Attention is a well-documented and reasonably well-understood phenomenon.

Very much a regular everyday occurrence.

Very much the cause of KSI's on UK roads, everyday.

 

[subaqua]

Fair enough, if that's what you think, I just don't think it's as clear cut as that.
What about the bin Lorry driver up your neck of the woods, he didn't see anything because he couldn't, he was unconscious!
Sometimes sh## happens, most other times it can be avoided - whether that be by using your common sense or by the other party driving better.

yeah because in construction wearing Hi Viz means you never get run over by a vehicle. http://www.theconstructionindex.co....s-suspended-jail-sentence-for-banksmans-death

PPE - LAST line of defence .

 

[Tin Pot]

Not even photographic evidence will please the ney sayers.

Nor you it seems.

 

[Crandoggler]

Don't you hate when you're driving down the road and you can't see the hi-viz signage.

 

[subaqua]

They probably do work. But wouldn't it be much better if people looked out for each other and didn't rely on the hi viz. if everything has hi viz you lose the benefit as it becomes the norm. A bit like DRLs .

 

[Justinslow]

You are quite right, but unfortunately as far as Justin's concerned, if he hasn't heard of it, it doesn't exist.

I tend to get selective attention on here...........

 

[Justinslow]

yeah because in construction wearing Hi Viz means you never get run over by a vehicle. http://www.theconstructionindex.co....s-suspended-jail-sentence-for-banksmans-death

PPE - LAST line of defence .

Nobody's saying that, but if it's crap why do the HSE demand it nowadays? I've not got an issue with hi viz, I didn't say the guy in the OP needed it. However tonight whilst taking my son to footy training I passed 3 cyclists and a couple of dog walkers wearing the stuff, stood out amazingly, that's not to say I've never seen it before obviously, just never really studied it. One dog walker didn't have any on and was practically invisible (full darkness) nipping in and out of the hedge.

 

[liambauckham]

its still going

 

[glenn forger]

I think we're going to get an update on the visibility of everyone justin encounters.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

[QUOTE 4044784, member: 9609"]of course these incidents will occur, but for every clown that crashes into something so obvious, 1000s will have spotted the hazard earlier and took appropriate action. If this is your argument for cyclists to take no responsibility for themselves then it is ludicrous.

So can I take it that the consensus of opinion from the cycling community is. Any use of lights, hi-viz, bright colours are a total waste of time, The HSE, The Police, Ambulance, Fire Brigade, The Highway Code, Local Authorities, have all been getting it wrong for years, all wasting money by the bucket full on this nonsense, could it have all been a conspiracy or some get rich plan?

Is there any peer reviewed scientific evidence that Lights, Hi-Viz and bright colours do not work.?[/QUOTE]


Are you listening to a voice in your head?

GC

 

[Justinslow]

I think we're going to get an update on the visibility of everyone justin encounters.

Some people on here clearly could learn a thing or two!

 

[liambauckham]

just to add to the flames...... just seen this on another site. Never run a level crossing.....

Spoiler: Cyclist hit by high-speed train

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EWfUKqEGiU