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Justinslow

Justinslow

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It doesn't matter what you wear really, aside from lights in the dark, because:
-A driver who is looking properly will see you no matter what
-A driver who is not looking properly will not see you no matter what.

There is no realistic scenario where high vis will make the difference between being seen and not seen.
In your opinion.
 
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Justinslow

Justinslow

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It doesn't matter what you wear really, aside from lights in the dark, because:
-A driver who is looking properly will see you no matter what
-A driver who is not looking properly will not see you no matter what.

There is no realistic scenario where high vis will make the difference between being seen and not seen.
Peripheral vision? Picking stuff out that's not in your direct eye line. Why does industry etc demand it's use, are the powers that be all mental? Do they think it just looks "kinda nice"?
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
Peripheral vision? Picking stuff out that's not in your direct eye line. Why does industry etc demand it's use, are the powers that be all mental? Do they think it just looks "kinda nice"?

Movement will be picked up no matter what colour the cyclist is wearing, in daylight, as long as the driver is paying attention. If they are not, then again it won't make any difference what the colour is.

Use in construction is completely different, as has already been explained to you.
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
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Midlands
Movement will be picked up no matter what colour the cyclist is wearing, in daylight, as long as the driver is paying attention. If they are not, then again it won't make any difference what the colour is.

It is not binary - there are many degrees between paying no attention and giving full attention to the road.
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
IIRC just having flashing lights makes it difficult for other people to judge the distance to you accurately. Is this not the case?
 
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Justinslow

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Suffolk
[QUOTE 4043526, member: 9609"]I have three flashers on the back and I would have thought the scenario you suggest would be impossible, but from the video post earlier, link I slowed it down to a frame by frame situation and low and behold, it happens,
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but look at the difference they make ![/QUOTE]
I have two flashers on the rear, but using different flash modes, help to prevent both from not being lit at the same time :thumbsup:
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
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Midlands
For me one flasher and one constant, the constant being the brighter one.
 
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Justinslow

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Lovely jubbly
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[QUOTE 4043562, member: 9609"]I can't remember who it was, but it was suggested earlier that colours make no differance. here is a still from my video, I don't have lights on the front of my bike, but look how that pink hat stands out, bright red shirt is not very good, and black track suit bottoms are utterly useless. That pink is wonderful in fading light, far better than my hi viz yellow -
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and just look at those white railings[/QUOTE]
Not even photographic evidence will please the ney sayers.
What if - heaven forbid, two unlit dull dressed cyclists came together on a cycle path, road, junction etc, just a thought......how would they see each other?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
so now... a decent set of lights without a kite mark are not only insufficient, they're rude and nasty too. :laugh:
You've got that backwards: I wrote that rude and nasty lights are unapproved lights. I acknowledged that there are some OK unapproved lights, but how else can you tell which, short of testing them yourself? Lots of cyclists seem keen to recommend nasty dazzlers.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
Not even photographic evidence will please the ney sayers.
What if - heaven forbid, two unlit dull dressed cyclists came together on a cycle path, road, junction etc, just a thought......how would they see each other?
probably in the very same way in which you saw the unlit dull dressed ninja in your opening post.
 

Shed_head

Regular
Location
East Sussex
I haven't looked at this thread all weekend (been busy riding my bike) can't believe its still running LOL... Put down the keyboards and get outside! Or back to work :smile::smile:
 
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