Increase in seizures of illegal ebikes

[dicko]

On two occasions when we walked into Derby on a Tuesday we have come across a Police ambush awaiting an e scooter/bike rider. On one occasion they had several confiscated e scooters in a heap awaiting collection. We don’t see many now just the odd one but there are loads of ‘Just Eat’ orange e bikes about supposed they are legal?

 

[classic33]

On two occasions when we walked into Derby on a Tuesday we have come across a Police ambush awaiting an e scooter/bike rider. On one occasion they had several confiscated e scooters in a heap awaiting collection. We don’t see many now just the odd one but there are loads of ‘Just Eat’ orange e bikes about supposed they are legal?

They work on throttle only, many sold are sold that way, making them illegal if going over walk assist speed.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

In the city centre it'd take you longer to load the app, pay and wait for someone to deliver then walk into one of the many takeaway shops.

I'd imagine in the city centre delivery is surving on those too lazy to even leave their front door to get something.

Oh yes

My wife has come to realise that my problem with hating to wait means that she gets her pizza quicker and fresher

her son and his wife - and their whole family - think I am weird for always wanting to go out and get it

OK - to be fair I can be weird - but on this I think I make sense

apart from anything else if you go to the shop then you can often see the hygiene rating on the door

I have seen some roun dhere that have been in the paper for scary hygiene rating and I still see cars loading up delivery bags of stuff

I reckon they just get orders from Just Eat (etc) and don;t consider where it comes from

 

[steverob]

It's also weird why the delivery apps are so popular given the horrendous mark ups there are on using them. Was buying two meals from a well known chicken chain restaurant the other day (other vendors are available) and noted that what I wanted to buy via their app came to £37 if I ate in the restaurant or collected it myself.

The menu price on Deliveroo was higher in the first place at £43, but there was then added on a £3 service fee and then another £2 delivery charge on top of that, which means the cost of getting it delivered was £11 - an increase of almost 30%.

I hopped on my (non e-) bike and picked it up myself in the end and probably got it back home quicker as well.

 

[Dogtrousers]

I don't know why but I have always preferred to walk and pick up my takeaways.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Some places offer delivery direct from them
and offer on the famous web sites

I have even seen delivery people loading up from botha t the same time

but the direct food costs less that the "big company" versions

I was chatting to someone ther e once while I was waiting and she said that they did have to give priority becasue they had to stick to targets and the like
but if the set targets were OK then the direct food got priority

 

[Drago]

I don't know why but I have always preferred to walk and pick up my takeaways.

 

[Jenkins]

There's a few that won't be making it onto the streets - 340 mixed scooters, bikes & motorbikes seized at Felixstowe Port

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq29l34e1wo

 

[mjr]

I don't know why but I have always preferred to walk and pick up my takeaways.

Yeah, but you're a townie. If it's not collected by bike, out here four miles from Nowhere, it'd be cold before it gets home, even in an insulted bag.

 

[mjr]

There's a few that won't be making it onto the streets - 340 mixed scooters, bikes & motorbikes seized at Felixstowe Port

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq29l34e1wo

I suspect, from how that's written, that most were seized for electrical faults, rather than necessarily being illegal vehicles if they'd had good chargers and batteries.

 

[classic33]

There were fewer in Leeds tonight, the corner of Briggate was deserted. But of those that were seen, only one had lights. One white light front and rear.
Up at the Headrow, one came out of a side street, straight through a red light and across the Headrow. Taxi driver, with right of way, had to make a sudden stop to avoid hitting him. It wasn't a change of the lights, they were in the taxi drivers favour as he approached them.

Why don't they stop them for this offence?

 

[Alex321]

I suspect, from how that's written, that most were seized for electrical faults, rather than necessarily being illegal vehicles if they'd had good chargers and batteries.

I'm sure you are right, as they can't actually be seized for being "illegal vehicles". They aren't illegal to own or to sell (or import). They are only illegal to use on the road.

As you say, those were seized for being dangerous to even plug in.

 

[Mike Ayling]

Yeah, but you're a townie. If it's not collected by bike, out here four miles from Nowhere, it'd be cold before it gets home, even in an insulted bag.

You should be kind to your bag and not insult it

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

There were fewer in Leeds tonight, the corner of Briggate was deserted. But of those that were seen, only one had lights. One white light front and rear.
Up at the Headrow, one came out of a side street, straight through a red light and across the Headrow. Taxi driver, with right of way, had to make a sudden stop to avoid hitting him. It wasn't a change of the lights, they were in the taxi drivers favour as he approached them.

Why don't they stop them for this offence?

Who is going to stop them?
you can;t have a copper in a car on every junction
and a bike can nip through gaps that cars cannot

and identifying them is almost impossible unless you can see them do something specific - such as picking up a delivery where the "restaurant" could give you the ID

and as said - if you find out where they live the bike itself is not illegal in itself
it is just illegal to ride on the roads

basically it is a mess that requires a lot of manpower to sort out
and the Police don;t have the manpower unless they divert it from other things that are possibly more important

how you judge important is difficult!

 

[Jenkins]

A little bit more info from the local rag on the goods seized...

The seizures were carried out to prevent serious harm caused by fire, explosion, electric shock, as well as anti-social behaviour and criminality linked to the vehicles.
Some of the goods were unlabelled, and some had labelling only in Chinese.
It was also found that many were supplied with non-UK plugs and chargers with unsafe adaptors and false technical documentation.
It was found that none of the goods were legal for the UK, whether it was on or off the road, as many were capable of reaching speeds of more than 50mph.
The goods included:

• 224 counterfeit or grey import Sur-ron electric motorbikes, including Lite Bee, Hyper Bee and Ultra Bee models, some of which can reach 56mph valued at £1,027,905
• Five Talaria electric motorbikes retailing around £5,000 each
• A high-powered ‘Arctic Leopard’ electric motorbike valued at £6,000, which can be ridden over 63mph
• A Blade II ‘Teverun’ electric scooter worth £6,000 and capable of speeds of 53mph
• 40 high-powered electric bikes commonly used by food couriers

From: https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/25455480.1m-counterfeit-vehicles-seized-felixstowe/