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Increase in seizures of illegal ebikes
- Thread starter Dogtrousers
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Thats the advantage of a mid drive motor on a pedelec. Have left many a hub drive pedel behind once the road goes upwards.
Must have been near half a battery crawling up Lythe bank towards Saltburn.
Boulby bank is much the same as is the reverse out of Skinningrove.
The Staithes banks are relative light work.
OP
OP
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I've ridden there (decades ago on an over-geared bike. It was horrible.) Doesn't change my view that 20% hills are very rare overall. A few pockets here and there, that's all.
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Yet in terms of climbing ability my (Suntour HESC+) hub drive was slightly better than my (Bosch) mid drive, a minor difference probably due to the rear drive simply having a slightly beefier output.
And at 270lbs im a serious test of any electric assistance.
Unless the terrain is so poor you need rear suspension, where it is not a good idea to locate the mass of a motor in the rear wheel, the placement of the motor makes no real difference.
I think you should read Simon Warrens Cycling Climbs of Yorkshire. In the section described as East Yorkshire which includes the North York moors there are 15 climbs with gradients with 20% and above sections. Then there’s the Dales, South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire with their 20% plus climbs. Maybe you need to get out on your bike a bit more.😉
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Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Do you really think that just because there are some hills here and there in Yorkshire, that warrants an increase in the wattage of e-bikes?
20% climbs are very uncommon. There are hundreds of climbs that cyclists call 20% but most of them are only about 15. The few that there are really don't make a good argument for changing the laws on e-bikes.
Could you show me where I said anything about increasing the wattage of Ebikes. My points have been that thousands of cyclists can ride at over 15 mph on a normal bike and there are hundreds of hills over 20% in the UK.
But because these are not in your weekly cycling routine they don‘t exist.
- Location
- Glasgow
There also are thousands that cannot do this
I, for example, can ride on ice, so can a few on this forum.
That doesn't mean others, as cyclists, can, want, need to do the same.
Indeed I'm not advocating every cyclist worth its salt should have studded tyres on the ready!
There also are thousands that cannot do this
I, for example, can ride on ice, so can a few on this forum.
That doesn't mean others, as cyclists, can, want, need to do the same.
Indeed I'm not advocating every cyclist worth its salt should have studded tyres on the ready!
But then I have climbed on ice but I can’t dance on ice but there you go.😉
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OP
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
If not then what are you on about then? That's the subject under discussion.
Because you were claiming that to ride faster than an ebike on a normal bike was superhuman.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Given that very few of us riding regular bikes can produce 250W for long, 250W seems perfectly reasonable unless you are wanting to make ebike riders climb hills more easily than fit regular bike riders.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Not according to the regulations. It is (currently) 250W "continuously rated power". Which means a higher peak power.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Which very few people would manage unless it was only 50 yards or so.
What "inefficiency". The 250W is output power, not consumed power.
8% is fairly steep, but one that most of us if we are reasonably fit can get up at 7-8mph.
