i‘ve opened a rehoming centre for abused carbon,
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all 3 came home in bags and boxes with a story to tell, one was an insurance right off, one a failed diy build project and the other was just a bargain. I’m luckily that i don’t mind taking a punt on a bike and then putting in some work to get them right, all of mine are worth more now than I paid for them as all the parts except the wheels were second hand.
i also use and lightly abuse them, they definitely don‘t get treated with kid gloves although I do service them well. The middle bike was on a 3hr wet ride last Friday, I’m not precious about them at all and am more than happy for my children to use them when we go out on family rides.
PS don’t tell anyone in my cycling club as they all think I’m a dentist with “loadsa money” and not a serial carbon rehoming sales engineer