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lyn1

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Just for info, Nick Craig is 44 and had ridden - and won - the over 40 championship the day before. I stand by my comments. Nick has a lot of class and experience, but if there was any real strength in depth, he should have been in difficulty with the younger riders, which he wasn't. This of course, takes nothing away from his quality ride, it's simply a reflection on what the future may hold.

Agreed, far tougher to win a title in the days of Hammond, Clarke, Knight, Ellis and a younger Craigy ….Long story, although without Olympic status or a significant introduction of funds at World level to increase the number of pro teams, I cannot see the Brtish scene changing. The decline has been evident over the last decade and largely precipitated by the introduction of the talent team and Olympic programmes. At the age of 12-13-14 years it is the same riders who lead the cross events who are also at the front at MTB and road/track races. They have all round talent and do not specialise so early. The introduction of the BC talent programme about a decade ago placed virtually total emphasis on the track (more controlled environment and plenty of Olympic medals available). At this point, very large numbers of young riders went for, or were pushed towards a track specialisation. As the Olympic programmes developed during the next few years road and MTB gradually received more emphasis and yet more riders specialised in those areas at the expense of a non-Olympic (and in the British context) amateur option such as cross. Many of the riders who have won junior and U23 National races in recent years have been in the process of joining an Olympic Academy or are already on it and just using cross for training in preparation for their main discipline e.g. the top 2 U23s at the Nationals.

Some of the “old stagers” who are at the sharp end now are the same guys who were at the front of races a decade ago. They are still there because dozens and dozens of young riders who should have come through and challenged or moved beyond them have switched to Olympic Academies, joined some of the UCI Continental road teams or have packed up because there is no money in it (bank of mum and dad dries up eventually).
 

oldroadman

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Yep, simple economics at local level and as cross is a non_Olympic discipline I would guess there is little or no funding from public/lottery money. Very unfortunate as there are still world championships to be won, and Helen Wyman may well be the rider to do it. But the government and funders don't seem to see past Olympic medals,and there are more on the track, so it would be sensible to concentrate on that and ensure funding/jobs for staff and riders. Whether that makes sense is something that would have to be asked of those in charge of the lottery money, as I see it BC are simply doing what they need to do to secure the position for the future.
 

The Couch

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A shame that Jacques Rogge (Being Belgian and all :smile:) never pushed for cyclocross to become an Olympic sport.
(Probably best at the winter-Olympics to give it the right type of merit it deserves)

Okay, the first years it would be countries like Belgium, the Netherlands, the Czech republic (potentially even France, Germany and Suisse) dominating it. But let's face it, many sports started with "a home ground" and only really expand(ed) to the rest of the world by making it as an international/Olympic sport.
 
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VamP

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It's hard to look beyond Nys for the Worlds now, he has been imperious of late.

I saw an interview with Stybar after his brief toe in the water over Christmas, and he reckons the quality of the field as a whole has fallen over the last couple of years, which helps Nys maintain his dominance. Styby reckoned there is no way he would have been as competitive a few years ago with the way he has focused all his training on the road this season.
 

The Couch

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Fine display from Mr Nys yesterday.... looking forward to the world cup event this coming weekend..
World-Cups are often quite disappointing qua type of track though.
And with Nys electing not to ride it and Albert (who should be fitted for this track) unsure if he has his form back, it'll most likely be a Pauwels/LvdH battle (after potentially qiute a lot of people staying together for the biggest part of the race)

... of course tons of rain might change the track
 
Peters and Walsleben should be right in there aswell... (fingers X`d) ..
 

The Couch

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Quite interesting battle/race in Nommay ... apparently there were enough parts of the track made heavier/muddy because of the weather.
Personally would have loved to see it go to Walsleben, but he couldn't drop the other 2 guys and he doesn't have much of a shot against Mourey and Meeusen in a sprint.

LvdH wins (deservedly so) the WC, but let's face it... this competition was not the most interesting/competitive
What bothers me a bit though, is that he'll most likely even end the season at the top of the UCI ranking. Which I think (although I might be biased) is just wrong, LvdH - although the best cyclocrosser on the fast and dry races (with short climbs) - hasn't ridden most of the BPost races and wasn't that particularly good on muddy and sandy races throughout the year. The best rider this year is/was - once again - Sven Nys.
I do have the feeling that these WC races have too high a value on ranking (while Superprestige and Bpost are being biked by just about the same people).

Nice to see Mourey back at the front this weekend.. always interesting to have extra X-factors at the upcoming World Championships
(Simunek also had a very promising results, but I am not so sure that this wasn't a one-off performance)

By the way, Sven Nys' trainer made a trailer about their training for the World's.
It's really bad actually (well... the biking piece is), but I though I'd put it up here anyway :smile:


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qzqHbFxdXA
 
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VamP

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What will the conditions be like at Hoogerheide @The Couch ? Heavy and slippery I would think. Still hard to think how anyone can beat Sven, he has been very hard to beat when he didn't want to be this season.

Even if does go off arsing about in Mallorca..
 
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Marianne Vos looked good in Nommay. Brits ran alright too with 2 placed in the top 5.
 

The Couch

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Even if does go off arsing about in Mallorca..
lol :smile:

With nights that go below 0, I expect the track will be getting tougher throughout the week, when people train/ride on it while it is thawing.
And I know that on Saturday they predict quite some rain here (which isn't that far away), so indeed the track should be getting more tricky/heavy.
 
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