ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
Is a bread free diet pointless if you keep at the spuds?
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col
Legendary Member
Your right, so what are the essential fats ?
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
Well, I'm sure that you know, and I have a good idea but I'll check to make sure that I don't misinform anybody ... Let Wikipedia explain it!
col
Legendary Member
Dont worry I was being sarky and was waiting for you to google themWell, I'm sure that you know, and I have a good idea but I'll check to make sure that I don't misinform anybody ... Let Wikipedia explain it!
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I've already done Let Me Google That For You elsewhere on CycleChat this evening! (Recursion, see Recursion!)Dont worry I was being sarky and was waiting for you to google them
Enigma2008
Über Member
- Location
- Nottingham
Food is food! Just keep it simple, eating less than you burn off = weight loss. Burning off more than you eat = weight loss. If you eat high calorific foods then you need to eat a lot less and will feel hungry, low calorific foods mean you can eat more and feel fuller. All this bull about types of food and faddy diets will always boil (no pun intended) down to calories in v calories out.
amaferanga
Veteran
- Location
- Bolton
If you're trying to lose weight while still cycling a lot and training to race (for example) then food type and calorie timing is VERY important. If you don't give a stuff how little energy you have then I agree that calories in vs. calories out is all that really matters.
Enigma2008
Über Member
- Location
- Nottingham
I totally agree with you, training and racing place very heavy demands on the body and that needs to be met with appropriate fuelling. Though in my view trying to lose any significant weight by cutting food intake at the same time is a recipe for disaster. Ideally the objective should be to lose weight prior to entering the race phase.
Yes, of course it does. That is, if you're to take a wide definition of the expression 'calories in v calories out'. It stands to reason. It's like saying 'if the car has no petrol in the tank then it won't run'. So you live your life filling the tank with whatever fuel without ever thinking of fuel efficiency.
That simple expression takes no account of how the body converts food into energy, how it stores it, when it stores it, what processes are involved, how those processes are impacted by other factors, etc, etc, etc ... and that's all before you even get to thinking about how the body burns its energy stores. You just assume that a slice of bread at x calories will fuel x minutes of high intensity exercise. You're not considering the other factors that are involved in that process.
It's a 'black box' statement; a cable in and a cable out with no thought about what happens in the box.
Now of course you don't have to know anything about the processes. It's not compulsory. You can just fill the tank, run it down and fill it again. It works, of course it does. Personally, I don't mind what anyone does re weight loss (whatever your preferred method is), but please don't say it's 'simply' calories in v calories out because that belies the processes involved. If you know just a little of those processes then this enables you to tackle your weight loss as less of an onerous chore. The approach implied by 'calories in v calories out' is often, imho, a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
col
Legendary Member
Yes er no er far away er oh fickCol is a man of consistently being inconsistent (but in his own head he's right)!
That's all very well when your getting your body into a catabolic state and doing little to no exercise. As amafaranga and yello mentioned if your training or exercising whilst trying to lose some weight then it's important you eat certain fuels in order to recover and not feel too weak. If you have no energy to exercise then you cannot progress as fast (or even worse sustain an injury). Whilst in a catabolic state you also lose muscle which is normally unwanted as opposed to fat. As most people know, in cycling your power to weight is important and maintaining muscle is not as simple as boldly stating "eating less than you burn".
Let's not confuse weight loss with training smart!
col
Legendary Member
Protien and carbs in proper quantities will keep and even build muscle, Like I said, just cut fats out and you lose fat but not muscle tissue.That's all very well when your getting your body into a catabolic state and doing little to no exercise. As amafaranga and yello mentioned if your training or exercising whilst trying to lose some weight then it's important you eat certain fuels in order to recover and not feel too weak. If you have no energy to exercise then you cannot progress as fast (or even worse sustain an injury). Whilst in a catabolic state you also lose muscle which is normally unwanted as opposed to fat. As most people know, in cycling your power to weight is important and maintaining muscle is not as simple as boldly stating "eating less than you burn".
Let's not confuse weight loss with training smart!
col
Legendary Member
Dont tell me, if I cut ALL fat out its unhealthy tooEating too much carbs will get stored as fat, so you need to be sensible with regard to this statement.
