It looks like we’re getting back to normal a bit quicker than I thought.

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LeetleGreyCells

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BC Update

I think it could be clearer but BC appear to have given the go ahead for club rides with groups of a maximum of six. Check the Q&A.
Interesting reading.

It will be even more interesting leading rides. A little too vague perhaps. Knackering for the ride leader getting around socially distanced riders in single file to negotiate junctions.

I'm also a Go Ride coach and the guidance seems far more manageable than leading rides - the guidance is a little vague in places, but by necessity, I think, depending on your coaching situation and facilities.
 

LeetleGreyCells

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Interesting reading.

It will be even more interesting leading rides. A little too vague perhaps. Knackering for the ride leader getting around socially distanced riders in single file to negotiate junctions.

I'm also a Go Ride coach and the guidance seems far more manageable than leading rides - the guidance is a little vague in places, but by necessity, I think, depending on your coaching situation and facilities.
On second thoughts and after chatting with our other Go Ride coach and coordinator, the coaching may be unfeasible too. Going to read the guidance again.

Thinking about Guided Rides, if leading as normal from the rear, and with a group of 5 socially-distanced riders, you would be racing over 25 metres on the wrong side of the road every time you came to a junction! :ohmy:
 

Landsurfer

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Things must be bit different in your part of the world.
They must be ... and the supermarkets i have visited in Stoke, Newcastle, Chesterfield, Bristol, Reading, Doncaster, Rotherham and Sheffield.. in the last 2 months ....:rolleyes:

oops ... and Derby, Burton and Birmingham ..... The only social distancing on view was store imposed at the till.....
 
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Pat "5mph"

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OK. Think you had a post deleted yesterday for being a bit of a ****
I'll rephrase the question...
Please explain how Zoom is better or different from all the other video conferencing facilities out there? Why is it better than say Skype?

Why is Zoom suddenly all that the tech geeks can think of?

Why is it the flavour of the month and how long before it is consigned to the great scrap heap in the sky.

Is that a reasonable enough question?
Mod Note:
@Darius_Jedburgh please start a new thread in cafe on the Zoom topic, thank you.
 
OP
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providing that the ride leader doesn't issue any negligent instructions (like ignore the stop lines at red lights, or ride excessively fast in the door zone, etc)?
If that snide comment was aimed at me, you need to get a grip. Firstly every single thing you typed there is wrong, secondly, I wasn’t leading a ride.
 
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My point is that the rides in question don't have ride leaders because they're not that kind of [organised] ride - they're just a bunch of people using BC to organise and get together for a ride. It seemed to me that at least one person's interpretation of "we are pleased to announce small HSBC UK Ride Social group rides are able to resume in England and Jersey" is "B.C. telling me that I can lead small rides again".
However ( and this is where the hard of understanding and the circle jerk that surrounds them fall down) I am an official ride leader, so whether or not I set it up as a ‘guided ride’ or a ‘ride social’ my purple L appears next to my name and I am leading it, as a leader.The difference is that there is no comeback, should anything untoward happen on the ‘ride social’ and in over 80 rides I’ve lead nothing has, so by issuing the first statement, they have done the second, in my case. I know it’s hard for some people to understand, but that’s your problem.
 

classic33

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However ( and this is where the hard of understanding and the circle jerk that surrounds them fall down) I am an official ride leader, so whether or not I set it up as a ‘guided ride’ or a ‘ride social’ my purple L appears next to my name and I am leading it, as a leader.The difference is that there is no comeback, should anything untoward happen on the ‘ride social’ and in over 80 rides I’ve lead nothing has, so by issuing the first statement, they have done the second, in my case. I know it’s hard for some people to understand, but that’s your problem.
It's more about getting "your purple "L" next to your name" than the ride, and those taking part in it then?

If that's the case, I'd be questioning the actual reason for the "organised ride".
 
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Thinking about Guided Rides, if leading as normal from the rear, and with a group of 5 socially-distanced riders, you would be racing over 25 metres on the wrong side of the road every time you came to a junction! :ohmy:
Yes. That’s assuming there aren’t other leaders involved. The worst ones are where you are the solo leader and have to sprint like mad from the back to cover the junctions, let everyone pass, keep the elastic together, rinse and repeat, whilst simultaneously keeping the riders at the front from getting too far ahead, and not knackering the riders at the back out. I see it as good interval training.
 

freiston

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However ( and this is where the hard of understanding and the circle jerk that surrounds them fall down) I am an official ride leader, so whether or not I set it up as a ‘guided ride’ or a ‘ride social’ my purple L appears next to my name. The difference is that there is no comeback, should anything untoward happen on the ride and in over 80 rides I’ve lead nothing has. So by issuing the first statement, they have done the second, in my case. I know it’s hard for some people to understand, but that’s your problem.
You said "I’ve just had an email from B.C. telling me that I can lead small rides again". Ride Socials are not leaded [edit: "led"] - ergo you are not an official ride leader on those rides even if you have the BC accreditation of "Ride Leader" that lets you officially lead other rides. The screenshot of the email that you provided did not say anything about leading such rides - it said they [Ride Social group rides] are able to resume. Any problem with understanding is yours - you are bigging up your importance.
 
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You said "I’ve just had an email from B.C. telling me that I can lead small rides again". Ride Socials are not leaded [edit: "led"] - ergo you are not an official ride leader on those rides even if you have the BC accreditation of "Ride Leader" that lets you officially lead other rides. The screenshot of the email that you provided did not say anything about leading such rides - it said they [Ride Social group rides] are able to resume. Any problem with understanding is yours - you are bigging up your importance impotence.
FTFY
 

freiston

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However ( and this is where the hard of understanding and the circle jerk that surrounds them fall down) I am an official ride leader, so whether or not I set it up as a ‘guided ride’ or a ‘ride social’ my purple L appears next to my name and I am leading it, as a leader.The difference is that there is no comeback, should anything untoward happen on the ‘ride social’ and in over 80 rides I’ve lead nothing has, so by issuing the first statement, they have done the second, in my case. I know it’s hard for some people to understand, but that’s your problem.
Doesn't the Ride social ride page list participants only and not list any specific ride leaders for that ride?
 
OP
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It's more about getting "your purple "L" next to your name" than the ride, and those taking part in it then?

If that's the case, I'd be questioning the actual reason for the "organised ride".
No, that’s not it at all. I can’t help the purple L, that’s an automatic functIon of the system. The point is that if a trained leader sets up a ‘ride social’ and a ‘guided ride’ there’s little difference, other than the accountability of BC for anything happening on the ride. I prefer setting up ride socials, because they are less hassle.
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
However ( and this is where the hard of understanding and the circle jerk that surrounds them fall down) I am an official ride leader, so whether or not I set it up as a ‘guided ride’ or a ‘ride social’ my purple L appears next to my name and I am leading it, as a leader.The difference is that there is no comeback, should anything untoward happen on the ‘ride social’ and in over 80 rides I’ve lead nothing has, so by issuing the first statement, they have done the second, in my case. I know it’s hard for some people to understand, but that’s your problem.
Do BC know that this is how you are representing their brand?
 
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Doesn't the Ride social ride page list participants only and not list any specific ride leaders for that ride?
The ride leaders appear as participants, but with a purple L next to their name, on a ride Social. On a guided ride, they are separated, from the participants.
 
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