Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
Looks like he is a self employed Farrier, so unlikely to sack himself.
Might lose some customers though?
Looks like he is a self employed Farrier, so unlikely to sack himself.
I have had to fight all my life because I was always a little different. The one thing it has taught me is never to give in to bullys. Once you back down you have lost. If this guy gets a stupid sentence then maybe a critical mass ride is in order?Lets take a slightly different road on this thread...
..I did a quik scan of the forums online to see if and how this story has been seen. If there was ONE thing that should come ot of this it SHOULD be that assault is wrong and people SHOULD at the very least start to show a little sympathy for cyclists who get caught up in such a scenario.
However the truth is VERY different. We are universally hated it seems. And I'm talking far worse than a few years back with the Howard case. There is no justification for assault but people are putting it about that we deserve this kind of treatment, or that we deserve this because we're freeloaders.
There has been a real backlash. We're screwed.
I had a reply from the Evening Standard this morning. The guy shifted responsibility saying I should engage with anticyclists. I dont see how I or anyone else can. We're in a minority with a very loud and vociferous majority now shouting us down and drowing us out. I've tried to engage but theres no longer any reasoning. They take every opportunity to chip-chip-chip away.
Its depressing, tbh. It leads me to think that whatever outcome from this case that the public will side with the driver just as they have on the many, many internet sites. If a jury is swayed in such a way will he be convicted?
So the big question is really this... have we lost? I really hate writing this but its the way I think its going.
I have had to fight all my life because I was always a little different. The one thing it has taught me is never to give in to bullys. Once you back down you have lost. If this guy gets a stupid sentence then maybe a critical mass ride is in order?
If one is organised I will do my best to be there.That fight is a great attribute, it makes you a stronger person.
A critical mass ride sounds like a good idea for the lenient sentence of the hit and run driver though.
I guess if it was hit with enough force it could be classed as criminal damage.In my view the tipping point was when the cyclist slapped the car. The driver's personal space was invaded and something about having his vehicle "touched" whilst it was occupying "his piece of road" caused him to seek revenge. I can imagine quite a lot of car owners / drivers sympathising with that. "Dare to touch my car in anger, you're gonna know about it - even if you think I'm forcing you off the road."
Lets take a slightly different road on this thread...
..I did a quik scan of the forums online to see if and how this story has been seen. If there was ONE thing that should come ot of this it SHOULD be that assault is wrong and people SHOULD at the very least start to show a little sympathy for cyclists who get caught up in such a scenario.
However the truth is VERY different. We are universally hated it seems. And I'm talking far worse than a few years back with the Howard case. There is no justification for assault but people are putting it about that we deserve this kind of treatment, or that we deserve this because we're freeloaders.
Lets take a slightly different road on this thread...
..I did a quik scan of the forums online to see if and how this story has been seen. If there was ONE thing that should come ot of this it SHOULD be that assault is wrong and people SHOULD at the very least start to show a little sympathy for cyclists who get caught up in such a scenario.
However the truth is VERY different. We are universally hated it seems. And I'm talking far worse than a few years back with the Howard case. There is no justification for assault but people are putting it about that we deserve this kind of treatment, or that we deserve this because we're freeloaders.
There has been a real backlash. We're screwed.
I had a reply from the Evening Standard this morning. The guy shifted responsibility saying I should engage with anticyclists. I dont see how I or anyone else can. We're in a minority with a very loud and vociferous majority now shouting us down and drowing us out. I've tried to engage but theres no longer any reasoning. They take every opportunity to chip-chip-chip away.
Its depressing, tbh. It leads me to think that whatever outcome from this case that the public will side with the driver just as they have on the many, many internet sites. If a jury is swayed in such a way will he be convicted?
So the big question is really this... have we lost? I really hate writing this but its the way I think its going.
I wonder if any TV programme makers would be interested in this?I agree that we should never give in to bullies. But this is different, this is now institutionalised bigotry.
It never used to be this way, I've seen it change over the past few years, slowly creeping in, perhaps unhindered by us as we stood by and ignored much of the comment that was made. Its not just a viewpoint.... its a "recieved wisdom" in the same way racist Fathers and Mothers "teach" their kids to hate.
With the newspaper comments, it appears to me that the admin teams dont mind that any story is taken over as a spring board to slag anyone off. I agree with Marin, teens do still get it in the neck, and I wonder how these people would feel if someone went on a news story about a teen being stabbed after a robbery and left a load of sh*t about "kids do this, kids do that, its their own fault!"
I feel like printing up a shirt that says: "I am not a law breaker!"
We are universally hated it seems.