JOGLE Rickshaw Guinness world record

Discussion in 'Touring and Adventure Cycling' started by jmassey, 23 Jan 2018.

  1. OP

    jmassey Regular

    Right it seems my plans have changed then haha, I’ll look into Rhine and Danube.

    What website/app is best for planning bike routes?
  2. Ajax Bay

    Ajax Bay Veteran

    East Devon
    Ride with GPS -the route I've linked to is a draft LEJOG visiting all 4 of UK's Cardinal Points.

    Would be useful to hear what length the gears give you. 20" wheels time chainring teeth divided by High) smallest rear sprocket and by Low) largest rear sprocket (if your rickshaw has a set of sprockets/cogs at the rear). Otherwise discover by experiment how far the rickshaw goes on one turn of the pedals in the top and bottom gears and I/we can do the maths.
    I don't think changing the chainring would count as 'modification' but others will judge/advise on that.
    Last edited: 25 Jan 2018
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  3. OP

    jmassey Regular

    Yeah the rules are very vague and not at all helpful

    I like that route, just wondering if accessible by rickshaw though

    I’ll send a message to kajsa Tylen and try get some advice on the rules and regs

    Iv downloaded the ride with gps app just trying to figure out how to plan routes on it now :tongue:
  4. OP

    jmassey Regular

    Just trying figure out a route from Stoke on Trent to Newcastle upon Tyne ferry port. Once I’m in Amsterdam the route seems fairly straight forward, he says
  5. Pale Rider

    Pale Rider Guru

    I suspect you mean the ferry port at North Shields, which is 10 miles east of Newcastle on the coast.

    Makes a difference to routing, because coming from the south there is no point in going to Newcastle.

    The ferry at South Shields takes you across to the terminal, give or take a climb or two.

    Working in reverse, that would be South Shields, Sunderland, Stockton on Tees, Yarm, Northallerton, Thirsk and into York.

    On an upright, you would use some of NCN1, but there are lots of insurmountable for a rickshaw gates so you would need to stay on minor roads.

    Not sure after York, and Google maps for cyclists isn't much help because it suggests you jump on the A1(M).
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  6. Tigerbiten

    Tigerbiten Veteran

    Why Newcastle as thats across the pennines from Stoke.
    I'd go south of them and aim for Harwich as that flatter route.
    Stoke-on-Trent -> Burton-on-Trent -> Northampton -> Cambridge -> Harwich -> Hook-of-Holland.
    Plus that ferries cheaper ....... ^_^
  7. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    You might end up moving faster than some of the cars.
  8. I would use Wahoo and Ride with GPS. I would probably also ride it in Holland where it a lot flatter than the UK.

    If you are doing it in the UK why not just do it in East Anglia where it is flatter? You really need to spend a lot of time planning ths route. 6 gears on a rickshaw would not be good on hills like in Devon and Cornwall.

    What does "modified" mean? Is adding lights classed as modifying it.
    Last edited: 26 Jan 2018
  9. YukonBoy

    YukonBoy Extra solar

    Ultima Thule
    What is the minimum distance you aim to cycle? Guinness normal,y require that the new distance is a minimum distance greater than the previous record.
  10. Sharky

    Sharky Veteran

    Being a "trike", you'll find steering a bit tricky at first and descending at speed on twisty roads needs a bit of skill and practice.
    Good luck with your plans.
  11. snorri

    snorri Legendary Member
    Also lots of maps and info if you search for Rhein Radweg and Donau Radweg, much is in German but many sites are multilingual.
    Both routes are easily followed and well signposted, minimal forward planning is required.
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  12. Ajax Bay

    Ajax Bay Veteran

    East Devon
    I think the OP may be being unreasonably deterred from a UK route by some of the (very knowledgeable) rickshaw/tricycle experts above. There are some good routes which would not require any climbing more than (say) 7% and that only occasionally. For example from south Cambridgeshire to Glasgow via Spalding, Lincoln, Humber Bridge, York, Teesdale and Moffat. I have in mind the 100-630 section of LEL (more even than @Pale Rider has suggested - the climb up and over Yad Moss is long but I don't recall any steep bits.)
    Perhaps it's time for the OP to see what sort of climbs he can reasonably get up with the current gearing (as part of a long day's ride) and then construct a route avoiding English main A roads accordingly - happy to help with the latter btw (if UK).
    I would be tempted to look at a 'protection for passengers from the wind' arrangement (not a modification) :whistle: which might significantly reduce your drag.
    Last edited: 30 Jan 2018
  13. Ajax Bay

    Ajax Bay Veteran

    East Devon
    You have 75 days: how will you get you and the rickshaw to JoG? And how will you get back from LE? (answer ride most of the way there and ride most of the way back - would nicely give you 1600+ miles.
    Well stop faffing around 'planning' and spend a bit of time riding. Share the location of a hill that you climb that you think would be OK during a day's ride. What about the road from Milton to Werrington (past Baddesley Edge)? The climb at the beginning is 100m in 1.6km with a max gradient of 8%.
    OK a week on, have you managed to 'pop down to the shed'? Seeing you've only just bought it, I'm a bit surprised you don't know what make/model it is?
    Readers of this thread, would, I suspect, really like to see a picture of your rickshaw. [Edit: larger than the one inch square image in your atavar - VMT @Pale Rider ]
    Last edited: 1 Feb 2018
  14. Aravis

    Aravis No Regret

    Going back to the rules and regulations, I think this one may contain an important message which is being missed (my bolds):
    This seems to be talking about a "proper" journey, not just an accumulation of miles. The existing record holder rode south-easterly across much of Sumatra and part of Java, and it's easy to see how that qualifies. Riding up to JoG before coming back down to Land's End? I'd be doubtful. An extended JOGLE, zig-zagging across the country to make up the miles looks questionable too. Maybe Guinness have implied it would be OK, but they have been known to change their minds.

    Something like Paris - Moscow would fit the bill - which kind of emphasises just how big a project this really is.
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  15. Pale Rider

    Pale Rider Guru

    Agreed, although that might be it in his avatar.
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