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JOGLE Rickshaw Guinness world record

Discussion in 'Touring and Adventure Cycling' started by jmassey, 23 Jan 2018.

  1. Tigerbiten

    Tigerbiten Veteran

    Been there, done that on my bent trike-trailer rig ......... ^_^

    Like most things, it will depend on exactly how wide you rickshaw is.
    Most of the cycle paths gates/barriers on the continent are built for the basic wheelchair size of just under 1 meter. The North Sea Cycle route has a load of sheep gates which I only just got through. While the Rhine-Danube only the odd barrier and it's only the very odd one of those I cannot get my ICE Sprint through unlike the UK.
    The actual long distance paths tend to be wider than 2 meters, but some local cycle paths can be around 1 meter. The Rhine-Main-Danube and the Elbe is probably doable. The Rhine-Rhone canal may not have a wide enough path in places. And just forget about the canal-du-midi as that's only a rough singletrack path.

    Luck ....... ^_^
     
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  2. YukonBoy

    YukonBoy Veteran

    Location:
    Mars
    Maybe look at a route involving France, Belguim, Holland and the U.K.?
     
  3. OP
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    jmassey

    jmassey Member

    Right it seems my plans have changed then haha, I’ll look into Rhine and Danube.

    What website/app is best for planning bike routes?
     
  4. As expected, those rules are terribly badly written. I mean, what the hell is the point of the rule about transport to the start? It describes something that occurs outside of the attempt. What contingency is there for emergency - does a single vehicle-aided rescue invalidate the entire attempt? What is meant by "professional" GPS? What does "tracked" mean - does it mean recorded or does it refer to real time tracking (eg followmychallenge)? A printout of the tracking data is required. A printout? Are they completely mad? Why kml? Is gpx acceptable? What do they mean by "repeatedly"? Does following the same road a second time in a different direction qualify as repeatedly? And so on.

    For someone who has first hand experience of Guinness you could try getting in touch with Kajsa Tylen. You can find her on Twitter @yearinthesaddle or her website www.sweatpledge.com She may have useful advice.
     
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  5. Ajax Bay

    Ajax Bay Über Member

    Location:
    East Devon
    Ride with GPS -the route I've linked to is a draft LEJOG visiting all 4 of UK's Cardinal Points.

    Would be useful to hear what length the gears give you. 20" wheels time chainring teeth divided by High) smallest rear sprocket and by Low) largest rear sprocket (if your rickshaw has a set of sprockets/cogs at the rear). Otherwise discover by experiment how far the rickshaw goes on one turn of the pedals in the top and bottom gears and I/we can do the maths.
    I don't think changing the chainring would count as 'modification' but others will judge/advise on that.
     
    Last edited: 25 Jan 2018
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    jmassey

    jmassey Member

    Yeah the rules are very vague and not at all helpful

    I like that route, just wondering if accessible by rickshaw though

    I’ll send a message to kajsa Tylen and try get some advice on the rules and regs

    Iv downloaded the ride with gps app just trying to figure out how to plan routes on it now :tongue:
     
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    jmassey

    jmassey Member

    Just trying figure out a route from Stoke on Trent to Newcastle upon Tyne ferry port. Once I’m in Amsterdam the route seems fairly straight forward, he says
     
  8. Pale Rider

    Pale Rider Guru

    I suspect you mean the ferry port at North Shields, which is 10 miles east of Newcastle on the coast.

    Makes a difference to routing, because coming from the south there is no point in going to Newcastle.

    The ferry at South Shields takes you across to the terminal, give or take a climb or two.

    Working in reverse, that would be South Shields, Sunderland, Stockton on Tees, Yarm, Northallerton, Thirsk and into York.

    On an upright, you would use some of NCN1, but there are lots of insurmountable for a rickshaw gates so you would need to stay on minor roads.

    Not sure after York, and Google maps for cyclists isn't much help because it suggests you jump on the A1(M).
     
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  9. Tigerbiten

    Tigerbiten Veteran

    Why Newcastle as thats across the pennines from Stoke.
    I'd go south of them and aim for Harwich as that flatter route.
    Stoke-on-Trent -> Burton-on-Trent -> Northampton -> Cambridge -> Harwich -> Hook-of-Holland.
    Plus that ferries cheaper ....... ^_^
     
  10. classic33

    classic33 Legendary Member

    You might end up moving faster than some of the cars.
     
  11. I would use Wahoo and Ride with GPS. I would probably also ride it in Holland where it a lot flatter than the UK.

    If you are doing it in the UK why not just do it in East Anglia where it is flatter? You really need to spend a lot of time planning ths route. 6 gears on a rickshaw would not be good on hills like in Devon and Cornwall.

    What does "modified" mean? Is adding lights classed as modifying it.
     
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  12. Guinness specifically require a "professional" GPS. This may just be Guinness using words without any regard to their meaning, or it may represent an underlying requirement for specific GPS capabilities. Garmin (Edge series) and Wahoo are cycling specific units, which may not really be what is required in this case. We all have preferences, but I wouldn't rush to choosing the brand (Garmin, Wahoo, Satmap, Magellan or others ...) before fully understanding the requirement. I certainly wouldn't limit myself to bike GPS units. Consider use of an AA powered device (if only as backup) in case you can't get to a charge point. You will definitely need multiple backup units for when things inevitably go wrong. (And would adding a dynohub for on-board charging constitute "modification" I wonder?)

    You may need a tracker to provide live position updates - and if you don't need one you may want one to publicise to your followers where you are so they can cheer you on (and sponsor you!). There are basically two types: Satellite based ones, that will track where you are regardless of whether you are in mobile coverage eg Spot or Garmin Inreach or Yellow Brick (or others...) Or mobile network based ones that need a mobile signal - there are all kinds of ways to do this.

    And you may want a website to give live feedback from your tracker of where you are at the moment, how far you've gone etc such as trackleaders.com or followmychallenge.com or possibly Free Route (or others...) But be aware that the accrued distance shown on here will not be the same as the "official" accrued distance as recorded in your GPS tracklogs, so you'll need to publish your GPS data somewhere too (Strava or RidewithGPS or one of a zillion others).
     
    Last edited: 26 Jan 2018
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  13. YukonBoy

    YukonBoy Veteran

    Location:
    Mars
    What is the minimum distance you aim to cycle? Guinness normal,y require that the new distance is a minimum distance greater than the previous record.
     
  14. Sharky

    Sharky Veteran

    Location:
    Kent
    Being a "trike", you'll find steering a bit tricky at first and descending at speed on twisty roads needs a bit of skill and practice.
    Good luck with your plans.
     
  15. snorri

    snorri Legendary Member

    http://www.rhinecycleroute.eu/the-route-of-the-eurovelo-15
    https://www.danube-cycle-path.com
    Also lots of maps and info if you search for Rhein Radweg and Donau Radweg, much is in German but many sites are multilingual.
    Both routes are easily followed and well signposted, minimal forward planning is required.
     
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