Katie Price needs help

[Bonefish Blues]

No Im not. I dont care what makes people drink and drive or drive after taking drugs. Especially when they do it time after time and have no regards of the courts decisions. She thinks the law does not apply to her. Lets hope the judge proves her wrong. If she carries on like this, she will end up killing someone.

Then she will go to prison, where there's a ready supply of substances to abuse. She will receive zero help, because there is no help in prison, and she will come out and it will happen again. Sure as eggs is eggs.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Many here seem keen on more prison sentences for those who are unwilling or unable to behave in a way that is not harmful to the rest of us. I understand that and I also understand that prison is very expensive, prevents people contributing to society and has a poor record in preventing recidivism. It also makes getting back into employment more difficult.
All of that makes it bad for the rest of us.

Is there room for convicted people to be subject to close monitoring along with training as an alternative to incarceration? A bit like probation but with intensive support and immediate sanctions?

That would be a more cost-effective, enlightened approach with an infinitely better chance of success (define success as you will)

 

[steveindenmark]

Then she will go to prison, where there's a ready supply of substances to abuse. She will receive zero help, because there is no help in prison, and she will come out and it will happen again. Sure as eggs is eggs.

So people are safe while she is away and her stretches will get longer when she reoffends. She has been banned 6 times. Now her family has come up with the mental illness concern. How convenient is that? She is going to do this again regardless what happens to her. If she needs help. Lets hope she gets it after a spell in prison.

 

[Cycleops]

Then she will go to prison, where there's a ready supply of substances to abuse. She will receive zero help, because there is no help in prison, and she will come out and it will happen again. Sure as eggs is eggs.

I thought she was booking into The Priory?

Shes going through bankruptcy proceedings so I don’t know where she’ll find the £7k a week.

 

[HMS_Dave]

Then she will go to prison, where there's a ready supply of substances to abuse. She will receive zero help, because there is no help in prison, and she will come out and it will happen again. Sure as eggs is eggs.

At some point you have to start protecting the public. She has offended time and time again, not a jail cell in sight. Her crash is a pretty nasty one and could have quite easily hit a cyclist, pedestrian or another motorist not to mention killed herself or a passenger. She crashed this time, how many other times has she ventured out, illegally, possibly under the influence? Whether she is in prison or not, you are probably right, if she doesnt want help, she'll likely continue down her very rocky road with access to substances. But at least there is less risk to the innocent third parties who are often victims of such negligent, selfish and illegal behaviour.

 

[Brandane]

Then she will go to prison, where there's a ready supply of substances to abuse. She will receive zero help, because there is no help in prison, and she will come out and it will happen again. Sure as eggs is eggs.

She cannot drive whilst in a prison cell. You can't legislate for what happens after she comes out, but while she is inside, the roads are that bit safer. And it might just help to deter someone else from doing similar.

 

[Pale Rider]

I’m uncomfortable with the use of ‘playing the x card’. It’s easy enough to say that a person claims x as a factor in a situation, even where you feel it is bogus. Describing it as ‘playing a card‘ demeans the reality of people for whom, say, mental health is a genuine contributor to their difficulties by making it sound as though everyone uses it as an excuse.

It's one of those terms that will be familiar to anyone in the criminal justice system.

No coincidence it was first used in this thread by an ex-copper, and my reference was liked by another ex-copper and a retired prison officer.

When you've seen strokes pulled dozens of times you inevitably get cynical.

Anyone running a mental health defence or mitigation still gets a fair shake, even if there might be remarks afterwards along the lines of 'a rare case of someone who is genuinely nuts'.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

If you're happy to pony up thousands (and thousands) of quid a week to keep the roads safe whilst she's in there, then all good, we're safe.

Works for everyone. In the short term, anyway. There may well be a better way, but it's individuals' prerogative to prefer a different solution that's definitely going to work for a few weeks.

 

[craigwend]

I thought she was booking into The Priory?

Shes going through bankruptcy proceedings so I don’t know where she’ll find the £7k a week.

Someone will buy the rights to the 'story'...

 

[pawl]

Someone will buy the rights to the 'story'...

Sentencing not due till December Hope she is forced to wear a tag until then Why the delay

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Sentencing not due till December Hope she is forced to wear a tag until then Why the delay

To allow time for the offender to receive professional help, aiui.

ETA
BBC report:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58733613

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It's one of those terms that will be familiar to anyone in the criminal justice system.

I know that, that’s part of the problem

It gets bandied about every time it comes up, thereby making it appear that even the genuine cases are faking it. There are many more who suffer from things like mental illness, depression, PTSD etc than who fake it as an excuse for criminal behaviour and it does them a disservice to lump them in with the frauds.

 

[Teamfixed]

Just saw her on the news wearing a towel. My goodness me she is having a ball.
Don't get me wrong, I am as empathetic as it's possible to be towards people in very difficult situations BUT there is a limit and a line that has been crossed here. Drunk/drugs no licence or insurance... she's a very serious danger.
When she publishes her next book, even factoring in fees to whoever writes it for her, she will more than cover her Priory charges. Waste of social media space.

 

[tyred]

I doubt that. If she is addicted, then (assuming she wants to engage) a secure Mental Health unit specialising in addiction is probably the best place for her.
Prison will not help deal with her addiction (assuming that that is the problem)

I agree with you but will she get put in one of those?

My understanding is that she is a repeat offender so she's had opportunities to do something or seek help or for the authorities to get help.

Left to her own devices, she is clearly a danger to herself and others.

 

[Arrowfoot]

For her own safety prison might actually be a safer place and a better option. She won't have access to drugs, alcohol and away from people who are supposed to care for her. It will help with her detoxification. She has gone past the reputational stigma some time back so for her this is survival.