Manchester - Llandudno: Saturday May 13

[si_c]

Well that was easily settled. My suggestion would be to try and do as we did last year, which was leave Eureka as a reasonable sized group, and then split in flint, would be easier navigating the dual carriageway in a larger group. It's not a bad road, but I can easily see why some would be uncomfortable.

Edit: plus the hilly/flat groups can run together then.

 

[gavroche]

That very short section is in Pensarn. It is less than 50 metres long but when you approach it, it looks like a wall! Many people walk it, enough young ones. When I get to the top, I am completely knackered but then, I am not as fit as you , youngsters.I look forward to seeing how you tackle it and how fast.
Even arriving at speed at the bottom doesn't take you up very far, believe me.

 

[si_c]

That very short section is in Pensarn. It is less than 50 metres long but when you approach it, it looks like a wall! Many people walk it, enough young ones. When I get to the top, I am completely knackered but then, I am not as fit as you , youngsters.I look forward to seeing how you tackle it and how fast.
Even arriving at speed at the bottom doesn't take you up very far, believe me.

Sounds about how I remember it. I was really not happy, and that was with a 34/30 gear. This year I'll hopefully be rocking a 32/34, so much lower

 

[ColinJ]

That very short section is in Pensarn. It is less than 50 metres long but when you approach it, it looks like a wall! Many people walk it, enough young ones. When I get to the top, I am completely knackered but then, I am not as fit as you , youngsters.I look forward to seeing how you tackle it and how fast.
Even arriving at speed at the bottom doesn't take you up very far, believe me.

I think I just found it ... Very easy to miss when you looking out for bigger climbs. It seems to go up about 13 metres in only 55 so roughly 23% - yes, I bet that IS a shock to the system!

Ha ha - I just checked some numbers ... even if I could put about 200 W into my singlespeed, I would only be climbing at about 3 km/hr and it would take me nearly 1 minute to do that tiny climb at a cadence of only 1 pedal rev per 6 seconds. A less scientific translation: No Way, Man!

 

[gavroche]

I think I just found it ... Very easy to miss when you looking out for bigger climbs. It seems to go up about 13 metres in only 55 so roughly 23% - yes, I bet that IS a shock to the system!

Ha ha - I just checked some numbers ... even if I could put about 200 W into my singlespeed, I would only be climbing at about 3 km/hr and it would take me nearly 1 minute to do that tiny climb at a cadence of only 1 pedal rev per 6 seconds. A less scientific translation: No Way, Man!

So I take it you are going to walk it? What about the one going into Llandudno at 10%? It is a bit longer and get steeper at the top.

 

[ColinJ]

So I take it you are going to walk it? What about the one going into Llandudno at 10%? It is a bit longer and get steeper at the top.

I wouldn't on my Cannondale, but on the s/s - yes!

I've just realised that I hadn't allowed for hitting the sharp climb at speed. My numbers were from a cold start. I'll try again and work out how fast I would have to be going at the bottom of the climb to be able to just get to the top. It would probably be something stupid like 80 km/hr ...

10% for a significant distance would kill my legs on 52/19 but it might just be possible for me.

I certainly will not be going anywhere near that Orme climb: laugh: (It's a pity because it is the sort of thing I like on low gears.)

 

[gavroche]

I wouldn't on my Cannondale, but on the s/s - yes!

I've just realised that I hadn't allowed for hitting the sharp climb at speed. My numbers were from a cold start. I'll try again and work out how fast I would have to be going at the bottom of the climb to be able to just get to the top. It would probably be something stupid like 80 km/hr ...

10% for a significant distance would kill my legs on 52/19 but it might just be possible for me.

I certainly will not be going anywhere near that Orme climb: laugh: (It's a pity because it is the sort of thing I like on low gears.)

I wouldn't even dream of doing the Orme climb, it is a real killer and only fit for super fit riders or pros.

 

[ColinJ]

I wouldn't even dream of doing the Orme climb, it is a real killer and only fit for super fit riders or pros.

I have a 'magic' 28/30 grovelling gear on my Cannondale CAAD 5 ...

Actually, I just checked that climb. It looks like it goes up 180 metres in 1.8 kms so an average of 10% but with a few ramps of about 15-16%. Definitely too hard for me without my low gears, but not too bad otherwise. I wouldn't be able to ride up it quickly but I wouldn't have a problem spinning my way up at a walking pace.

You need to fit some lower gears to your bike!

 

[Jaykun85]

there any long stay parking in llandudno .. as may take car up there to drive back when i survive the bike ride

 

[mike3121]

there any long stay parking in llandudno .. as may take car up there to drive back when i survive the bike ride

I would suggest parking a little outside Llandudno, you may be able to park for free that way

 

[mike3121]

I wouldn't even dream of doing the Orme climb, it is a real killer and only fit for super fit riders or pros.

I have been up the Orme a few times.
Oh wait a minute I was in my car

 

[nickyboy]

I have a 'magic' 28/30 grovelling gear on my Cannondale CAAD 5 ...

Actually, I just checked that climb. It looks like it goes up 180 metres in 1.8 kms so an average of 10% but with a few ramps of about 15-16%. Definitely too hard for me without my low gears, but not too bad otherwise. I wouldn't be able to ride up it quickly but I wouldn't have a problem spinning my way up at a walking pace.

You need to fit some lower gears to your bike!

The Orme climb from the chip shop is extremely tough with extended stretches 20+%. It would be a struggle with my easiest 34/27. No way Ill be trying....particularly after a large haddock

 

[si_c]

The Orme climb from the chip shop is extremely tough with extended stretches 20+%. It would be a struggle with my easiest 34/27. No way Ill be trying....particularly after a large haddock

Do it before then. Earn that fish and chips!

 

[Freds Dad]

there any long stay parking in llandudno .. as may take car up there to drive back when i survive the bike ride

I'm taking the car down on Friday afternoon and getting the train back from Llandudno Junction. Two days parking there is £8 which seems reasonable.

 

[gavroche]

I would suggest parking a little outside Llandudno, you may be able to park for free that way

Some roads in West Shore are free with no time restrictions, about 1 mile from tram station.